Live data from Hacker News

Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

news.ycombinator.com

231–240 of 393 posts

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#231
post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... isn't that exactly what access to storage does? Do any (mobile) platforms give access to NON sandboxed storage?

All apps get sandboxed storage without even asking. On Android at least, permission for "storage" means permission for an area shared between all apps. And a lot of apps dump stuff into it that you do not necessarily want every other app to have access to. It's always been that way. What it really needs is some kind of compartments, so that you can share storage between X and Y, and between Z and W, but not between X…

I just installed Signal two days ago and enabled backups.

This asked, understandably, for storage permission. This prompted me to give access to the sdcard, however, I had the option to select a single folder (or actually directly creating it within the prompt) that the app will have access to. I.e. Signal now has access to sdcard/signalbackups/ but not to the whole sdcard. (unless this whole new permission process wasn't Android but the Signal app. I rarely download apps and have to give storage permissions).

This used to be different, but times of giving access to full internal or external sdcards are over. Unfortunately though, the UX isn't perfect. I felt like I needed to know that I only want to give it access to a part of the sdcard and actively look that this is indeed possible. But that might be my bias from previous usage talking.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#232

I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

I use Dropbox the same way you did: As a screwdriver. This means, it does its job, it does it well, I'm not looking to make it a part of my life beyond that. I don't want new features or collaboration, and I definitely don't want to pay more than I do or see ads.

The screwdriver-manufacturing business is not very profitable, so nobody wants to be in it.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#233
Upon hearing about this, my reflex was to wonder if google is in talks to acquire dropbox...but then i thought it through and just didn't see why the owner of google drive would want to acquire the owner of dropbox.

To the original point, yeah, pretty crappy. My hope is that when i go file my taxes, or renew my auto registration, or interact with "real" official and important stuff, that i do not get asked for my FAANG credentials.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

[deleted]

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#235
post #10

Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

I'll add a +1 to pCloud (pcloud.com) - SyncThing doesn't fit my use case (I have no "one device to hold everything", it's all disparate laptops/phones) and I wanted a centralized location to store my encrypted backups and files and stuff.

My requirements were integration with rclone and FolderSync (android app) to work natively with their APIs and it works like written on the tin. I was able to use rclone on a cloud server to transfer data out of Google Cloud (rclone can act as a local proxy to copy between services) and I'm able to use FolderSync on my mobile to keep it backed up.

The pCloud branded mobile app is OK (nothing great), the webapp works well (again, just sort of works) and so far I've found no real problems with it - no failed syncs, my backups are backing up nicely, it just sort of works without fanfare.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#236
post #43

I really wish mobile OSes would allow you to grant apps permissions but serve fake data, (that's important!) without giving the app the ability to tell the difference. Just so it appears to the app that you've given the permission, when you in fact have not. This would solve this entire class of problems and then some. So, for example: - App "has" access to contacts, but the system returns that you have none. - App "…

I used to have a rooted android phone that could do this. If I remember correctly it was called Xposed Framework. I could even fake GPS data which was extremely useful in all kinds of apps. I also remember power usage increasing significantly after I installed this.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better! Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to pus…

Yeah, piracy is almost always the better service. How the hell can a bunch of enthusiasts come up with a better service than multi-billion dollar companies? They seriously need to stop and rethink their industry. When I use my Netflix I get a horribly compressed "high definition" picture, annoying autoplaying ads for shows I don't care about and a constantly decreasing amount of content. Piracy offers the opposite of…

They become multi billion companies by having different incentives (making profit) than the enthusiasts.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#238

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

> My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. You can actually turn off "Autoplay previews" now. You have to log into your account from a web browser, and then look at the Playback settings for the profile you want to change.

I have it turned off in my profile, which works nearly everywhere, but doesn't have any effect on the Apple TV netflix app.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#239

I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

I still have a free Dropbox account but I'm not buying. I had 16GB permanent at some point (and up to 50GB temporarily for various promotions) but at some point they cut my account to 10 for no good reason at acted dumb when I asked them about it. Microsoft gave me 5GB extra for uploading photos and shortly afterwards reduced it, forcing me to delete them, luckily I had them backed up elsewhere. Google Photos have st…

Companies throughout history have used the promotional idea of giving something away for free or drastically reduced rates for a new something in order to attract attention. Even drug dealers are known for "the first one's free" type of setup. Storage units have "first month free", cable companies "sign up now for 3 months at $49/mo for 6 months" kind of stuff. It wasn't until sleazy startups and SaaS types come along that do things like "free and always will be" *until we realize we were not good business people and can't run a business like that. Everything else has been regulated up the wazoo, but for some reason tech has been able to avoid these regulations OR flat out ignored them under the guise of "disrupting" the markets.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

#240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Yes wtf, I'm already paying and trying to watch a series I enjoy, stop pestering me. Just one of many dark patterns at Amazon, cancelling Prime is so difficult that Norwegan Consumer Council and 15 others yesterday started a legal fight with Amazon: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/siste-nytt/amazon-manipulates-... The video there is quite aggravating.

I'm receiving scam calls from India saying "Your Amazon Prime subscription is about to renew, please talk to our representative if you wish to cancel". If Amazon Prime was easy to cancel this scam wouldn't exist.

(I actually tried going along with the scam, but his call centre was so noisy he couldn't hear what I was saying, ffs.)

Post reply on HN