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Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by sundarurfriend »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #189
sundarurfriend wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Afaik, Gab doesn't use Mastodon anymore. They did start as a Mastodon instance, but after being blocked from most instances and even at the software level by most Mastodon apps, they stopped using Mastodon and I believe wrote their own new backend that does not federate.

Source please ? Wikipedia is not completely clear about the subject ("customized Mastodon fork") : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)

Not very official but: https://todon.nl/@isolategab/105362599835139257

Direct link to screenshot of post from someone from Gab (from the above page): https://todon.nl/system/media_attachments/files/105/362/596/...

Here's the commit that removes the Public/All timeline (the above image mentions that removal): https://code.gab.com/gab/social/gab-social/-/commit/7ad7fe06... Couldn't find when exactly Federation capability was removed, since that's less obvious from the commit messages (as someone who doesn't know Mastodon internals).

It's still based on the Mastodon fork, but they seem to have been changing the code constantly even before this (based on information under #gab on Mastodon), so it's not clear how much it resembles the Mastodon source by now.

PS: Somehow looking at the source repo and commit messages makes this more "real" for me, more than any screenshots or the user-facing site itself. It's a weird feeling.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by tastyfreeze »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #149
tastyfreeze wrote: post #116

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Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying. PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.

> Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. That's the problem right there. "Content creators". Protein factories churning out videos for money. Not every platform needs "content creators" - sometimes people with interesting things to share are enough, and these tend to use side revenue to fund their sharing.

What other moniker would you give to people that create videos for others to consume regardless of financial incentive?

Many of the YouTube channels I consume didnt start for any other reason than making things for others. They found popularity and decided to make a go at doing it professionally. Making quality content cost money and time. Expecting everybody to make videos on their own dime for posterity is unrealistic.

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Post by einpoklum »

roenxi wrote: post #37

I like PeerTube, but the really important part of the puzzle is the advertiser network. What makes YouTube special is that Google takes care of the advertising side of things and makes it easy for people to monetise. If Silicon Valley continues to drift into ideological activism, at some point a hugely profitable opportunity to set up a new advertising network develops.

That piece of the YouTube puzzle is important to capitalists. It is of no importance to people who want to share video. And as for those who want to (try and) make a living off of sharing videos online - they can ask for monetary support and often get some.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by monopoledance »

jamesrcole wrote: post #178
kitotik wrote: post #87

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Why does it need to compete with YouTube? Is it really a zerosum situation?

It doesn’t need to. But obviously there are people who want it to be at least fairly well used. The value of such a thing has a lot to do with how many people use it and how much content there is. You need users to give incentive for people to upload content. And you need content to incentivize new users.

I disagree. Value here is a matter of quality, not quantity, and impact on humanity's welfare. Most "network-effect successful" networks have a low and decreasing signal-noise ratio, they merely produce unqualified "content" for the most part.

Tech diversity in itself is a value, even if the niche players never leave the niche for the most part. Diversity allows for adaptability in a changing environment/crisis.

I believe the mass social network epoche is about to end, as the advertisement/influence ecosystem is eating up its island's last trees. The dream of the global internet failed, for reasons we can't fix. ActivityPub is much better fitting a fragmented network.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by ge96 »

LockAndLol wrote: post #160
ge96 wrote: post #42

Random side note, what if they have a mass-marketed "echo-like" device that is to form a meshnet that's not part of the regular internet. Would it happen? I get it's not like a trans atlantic line connecting continents and bandwidth etc... but other than jamming it would be "free". The other paranoia is hardware backdoor/software itself eg. AES encryption... seems overkill

There are meshnet projects out there. As for devices, you could try the Freedombox? https://freedombox.org/#get

Wow that's cool thanks for that link will check that out

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by toolz »

wilsynet wrote: post #140
rzz3 wrote: post #134

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It is still a very direct call to violence.

Is it a credible call to violence, or is it more of a figure of speech? I’d say that Trump’s calls to violence are pretty credible.

which message from trump was a call to violence? Genuinely asking as I probably haven't followed this whole mess as closely as I could've

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by PersonalOps »

sundarurfriend wrote: post #158

Some Peertube instances useful for English speakers: https://peertube.nielsemmer.com/videos/local?a-state=42 Documentaries, scitech talks, a few explanatory videos https://tilvids.com/ Varied. 'Fun facts' videos, educational, cooking, mythology, music, ... https://peerkids.com/videos/trending?a-state=42 Peertube for kids - cartoons, education stuff from TEDEd, PBS, etc. that look fun and well-made https://peertube.op…

Awesome! Most of the peertube stuff I've found out there has been FramaTube, a couple fringe-interest instances, those ones hosted by the creator which only have the owner's content (which is fine, I just need several instances like this to work), instances with super low bandwidth, instances in , or some combination of the above.

With the exception of the first one that 404s, every one of these is going to get a lot of use in our house!

Do other peertube instances share the bandwidth or just share links to the original server? Would it make sense for me to setup a peertube instance purely to act as a caching proxy on my network?

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Post by Scoundreller »

pjc50 wrote: post #170
geoah wrote: post #3

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Congrats on a major update! Peertube is something I’ve been trying again and again from time to time. My main issue is finding instances to follow that are properly moderated. A lot of the suggested instances are filled with stolen content, porn, or just very wtf videos. I’m hoping that once peertube provides ways for users to sponsor/subscribe-to creators’ peertube channels that more will either jump ship from youtu…

> lot of the suggested instances are filled with stolen content, porn, or just very wtf videos. The service that competes with youtube but is less convenient will necessarily be full of content banned from youtube.

After meeting Youtube's hours (or views?) threshold for monetization, months later the mass-demonetized anyone without enough subscribers. Dunno how threatening my semi-popular Macbook repair video was.

Sorry for solving people's problem instead of being entertaining like a network TV series.

Of course this sapped any desire to create a video again whenever I spend weeks finding a solution and then discover it.

I'd rather make a cent from PeerTube than $0 from YT.

Re: PeerTube v3

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Post by hda2 »

zanny wrote: post #63
hda2 wrote: post #32

Can peertube be split into two parts that live on separate servers: one that hosts the web interface and the other that seeds the videos? I would love to use peertube but the webhosting infrastructure I use would never be able to provide the large bandwidth needed for seeding videos. I do have ample bandwidth on non web hosting servers though.

Absolutely, seeding peertube videos would just be a regular webtorrent seedbox.

But can I only seed from a regular webtorrent seedbox without seeding from the server hosting the web app?
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