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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by arentyouspecial »

DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

Private companies are free to ‘censor’ what they believe is either bad for business or exposes them to liability. Maybe the free market has decided extremism is bad for business.

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Post by aflag »

DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

None of that is technically censorship. They are all private companies and they have the prerogative to give the users a TOS, which they can accept or not. That said, I do think that having more options is always good, a decentralized Internet is a richer Internet.

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Post by hourislate »

meekmockmook wrote: post #154

Every single player in this saga deserves nothing but contempt. Trump is reprehensible and his supporters are brainwashed. Big Tech conglomerates now openly disenfranchise and deplatform millions of people simultaneously through a coordinated effort. The implications for the future of speech and dissent are terrifying. Just disgusting and depressing in every way. An internet utopianist's nightmare. I don't want to li…

I wouldn't worry too much about things you can't change. The way Trumps voters (72 million of them) are being treated by the Democrats, will likely destroy the country in civil war.

Just get some popcorn and watch the shit show...

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Post by grumple »

DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

Corporations get to choose who they do business with, who’s on their platforms. If they don’t want to do business with a platform for hatred, violence, and fascism, they shouldn’t.

Of course they should have done this 4 years ago...

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Post by floatingatoll »

ENOTTY wrote: post #167

Reading Amazon's reasoning, tech companies are basically setting a standard that if you want to have user-generated content, you must have professional moderators. This seems like it will be a barrier to innovation.

That sounds amazing. Good idea. I think you’re describing the next step in user-generated content. Amazon has repeatedly proven that AI algorithms can’t save us from computer-generated trash and Twitter and Facebook have shown that algorithms can’t save us from malicious hate mobs and military psyops. Human moderation was the right solution, and we’ve tried for two decades to dodge that duty. Welcome back at last, reality.

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Post by mudil »

DJPocari wrote: post #187

Where do we draw the line on how we censor the internet? Obviously actual terrorist group sites can and should be taken down, but this feels like it's getting more murky than that. - Should we be okay with Facebook censoring these groups? - Should we be okay with Google censoring search results? - Should we be okay with Apple censoring apps? - Should we be okay with AWS censoring websites? - Should we be okay with Go…

How about we look into censoring family environment? Why not to take kids away from the family and transfer them to the state so they are not exposed to racist parents? Where's the end to it?

PS I came from Soviet Union and this is not a theoretical idea.

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Post by walls »

logicslave wrote: post #175

People on the left are mistaken if they think this is going to help. Someone somewhere in the country will plot something. We are playing with fire with these type of restrictions, root causes are not being solved. 75 million people voted for Donald Trump.

'We really shouldn't deplatform these terrorists because they might just do something extreme' get the fuck out of here.

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Post by quyleanh »

> If Apple, Google, Facebook and Twitter were acting in concert to raise prices, everyone would be up in arms. But acting in concert to repress speech, no big deal. Aren’t civil liberties supposed to be more important than money? [1]

[1] - https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1347961063707471873

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