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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by philsnow »

davidw wrote: post #36
syntaxing wrote: post #11

I'm super curious how this will WFH Covid-era will play out for the Bay Area. I think the question I haven't figured out is job mobility. Pre-covid, even if you lost your job here as an engineer, finding another company thats interesting with the right pay isn't too hard which is one of the best appeals of SV. I wonder how this will play out in terms of this dynamic.

I'm curious about how it plays out... everywhere. I live in what's being called a "Zoom town", with lots of remote workers who seem to want a smaller town with more outdoor access (Bend, Oregon if you're curious). House prices are going through the roof. But Bend was already hot, and on people's radar. Yesterday I saw an article about housing heating up in Baker City Oregon. This is a small town of 10K people that is…

If people are looking in smaller-town Oregon, I nearly bought a house in Pendleton and http://prodigalsonbrewery.com/ was contributing to that. They have stouts, porters, and reds on their beer menu instead of just whatever it is Cool Beer People are drinking these days, and their food is really solid pub food.

Good place to stop if you're passing through to Baker City :)

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by RC_ITR »

jeffbee wrote: post #127
birdyrooster wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Austin are: June. 92° / 72° July. 96° / 74° August 96° / 74° Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Cupertino are: June. 75° / 55° July. 76° / 58° August 76° / 58° Austin will never, ever be like Silicon Valley because of this. The freedom you get from cooler weather is great from an energy utilization stand point and for allowing safer and more desirable condi…

Bay Area had 99 straight days of poison air in 2020 and there's no reason to expect 2021 to be any better, especially considering that so far the 2020-2021 water year has been the driest ever recorded in human history.

Texas - Famous for not having wildfires.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Texas_wildfires

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by ntsplnkv2 »

SllX wrote: post #72
1helloworld1 wrote: post #18

Shouldn't the republican party be worried? If the trend continues and a lot of companies move from California to Texas bringing along a lot of liberal employees with them, won't that tip the already narrowing margin towards the democratic party?

That’s only a concern if the Republican Party makes no gains elsewhere, and Florida is looking less purple and more red these days, and the “blue wall” is looking a bit more purple.

I'd caution making this conclusion.

Trump was a huge driver of turnout. I don't think the republican party is quite as strong without him on the ticket.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by lock-free »

beagle3 wrote: post #42

Likely irrelevant, but reminded me of this[0]: """Basically, we’re moving because of William Whyte‘s rule: virtually all corporate relocations involve a move to a location which is closer to the CEO’s home than the old location. Whyte discovered this principle after an extensive study of Fortune 500 companies that left New York City for the suburbs in the 1950s and 1960s""" Tesla will likely move its HQ to Texas foll…

What was the typical tenure of a Fortune 500 CEO in the 1950s?

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by rossdavidh »

Disclosure: I live in Austin, and long ago lived in South Bay area of SV.

In general, I am skeptical that the pandemic will cause permanent changes, except insofar as it speeds up things that were happening anyway. But, in regards to an exodus from the very-highest-priced places to live, towards places where things are merely expensive, I wonder if this is going to be a lasting change. I had been seeing "SV/NYC is so expensive it's crazy, businesses will all leave if something doesn't get done" for so many years, I had more of less stopped waiting for it to actually occur. But this year, I wonder...

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by [deleted] »

tidepod12 wrote: post #67
rainyMammoth wrote: post #10

How long before all the Californians make Austin the exact same place they fled from?

"Californication" (yes, as referred to in the Red Hot Chili Peppers song) has been a thing for almost a century now. Oregon literally tried to ban immigrants from California back in the 1940s, and Coloradoans have a notorious saying from the 60s "Don't Californicate Colorado" (it used to be a pretty common bumper sticker) due to this effect. Go to Wyoming or Idaho and people feel the same way. California has unfortun…

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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by n13 »

adventured wrote: post #150
baggy_trough wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that one of the most prominent legislators literally told Elon Musk to get fucked on Twitter, I doubt anyone is listening.

Fortunately the Bay Area already has a billboard for their future from which they can borrow: https://i.imgur.com/OTFSSFF.png https://www.historylink.org/File/1287 Tech business will be persistently pulled out of the Bay Area and into other states, Europe is about to see a large tech boom (courtesy of US venture capital) that will considerably harm the dominance that Silicon Valley has enjoyed the past several decade…

I agree. I'm not really sure about how much Europe will benefit but I can see other US cities becoming new tech hot spots in few years, not even in a decade. BTW, I tried writing to you via email mentioned in your profile.
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