Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine? • Hacker News Board

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by postalrat » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:31 PM UTC

Omnus wrote: post #129

h3cate wrote: post #88

I'm genuinely curious as to why people have so much faith in big pharma after the whole benzo crisis that's hit America. Weren't these same companies paying doctors to get people hooked on Xanax?

"So much faith"? People are just following the science. Are you really arguing that because one bad situation has occurred involving pharmaceutical companies, we should assume every new drug or treatment is bogus or based on evil motives?

Too many people are claiming they are following the science but instead are playing politics.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by throwaway201103 » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:31 PM UTC

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #183

kylebenzle wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People keep forgetting that the vast majority of people under 45 that get in never have any idea that even had it and over 97% of deaths are people over 45.

Yes. Fuck all those guys over 45. How dare they continue living.

In reality it's more like over 80. Yes the incidence of severe cases does go up with age, but it's the very elderly who are most at risk. I'm 54, I had it, and it was a couple of days of slight nasal congestion and a very mild sore throat. If it had been any other year I wouldn't have paid it any mind at all and would have probably attributed it to the dry winter air.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by rglullis » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:31 PM UTC

whymauri wrote: post #18

I'm really interested in the people who are saying 'no.'

My answer is "I will wait", but most honestly it would be "No, unless the vaccination rate gets to a point that is not high enough to achieve herd immunity but is large enough to be considered safe and free from unexpected side-effects". Reasons:

- It's too new - not Lindy.

- I am reasonably convinced that I had it back in February, when people were not talking about it. It was very different from every year that I got the 'flu and I experienced anosmia, which never happened before. I still take all the precautions possible, but for all intents and purposes, I consider myself already immunized.

- I'm already working from home, my social life is the one of a parent of two small kids - i.e, almost non-existent, occasionally meeting small groups of either family or close friends. My parents are on the other side of the ocean and aside from them I haven't much interaction with people that could be at-risk.

- If herd immunity is achieved with ~60-70% vaccination, why take the risk when the social butterflies and those with key activities (health care workers, teachers, people working in retail) will likely be rushed to take it?

(Okay, I try to avoid complaining about downvotes, but downvoting a comment from someone that is just providing personal opinion? You can do better than that, HN...)

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by urda » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:32 PM UTC

I will get it, but once higher risk individuals have gotten their needs. I'm healthy, not immunocompromised, and WFH by myself. There won't be enough to go around at first, and others like front-line-workers, elder, and at-risk-patients need it before I do.

I can continue to keep the travel to zero, and only leave home for the bare needs until then. I consider it my civic duty.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by AHappyCamper » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:33 PM UTC

I'll wait until I see no adverse effects in 6-12 months, and I'll be damned if I let someone inject it into me before that!!

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:33 PM UTC

thelean12 wrote: post #229

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have already watched wealthy people in Germany and France and China skip the queue.

Skip the queue for what? Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? This is likely complete misinformation. Why is there so much misinformation on HN today?

> Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved?

Yup. It’s sitting in warehouses ready for distribution. No idea how. And no idea how they trusted it to be legitimate.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by viraptor » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:33 PM UTC

RobertRoberts wrote: post #204

viraptor wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vaccines go through phase 3 testing which is about efficacy. (And some other properties) What do you think is missing from them?

None of them intentionally give the live virus to their subjects.

That would speed up the test, sure. But as far as the quality of the results goes, why is that different from the existing test where a large number of vaccinated (real and placebo) subjects gets exposed/infected? It's still testing efficacy.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:33 PM UTC

Kliment wrote: post #228

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have already watched wealthy people in Germany and France and China skip the queue.

Outside clinical trials nobody in Germany or France has been vaccinated as there are no approved vaccines in those countries.

> nobody in Germany or France has been vaccinated as there are no approved vaccines

Which creates a force field around the warehouses in which it sits? Come on.

I guess I’ll revise to I know of people with substantial resources, hundreds of millions and billions at their disposal, who have been injected with something they believe to be the Pfizer vaccine.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by ichbinwiederda » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:34 PM UTC

From what I read it seems people who are young and not otherwise at risk don't really need to take the vaccine as it doesn't inhibit transmission (results not concluded but very likely it does not). In any case it is unlikely it will be available to you if you fall in this demographic anyway.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by dragonwriter » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:34 PM UTC

mrkramer wrote: post #224

radicalbyte wrote: post #27

I'll take it but only later in the year when it is more widely available. People at high risk should go first, then people who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague). Especially younger people, they need to get pricked. Do you really think they're going to avoid drinking close physical contact in spring? Me neither.

> People who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague) What if somebody has asymptomatic covid infection? He or she spreads it without intent, you can not blame them.

> What if somebody has asymptomatic covid infection? He or she spreads it without intent, you can not blame them.

Yes, given what is widely publicly known about the disease, I can very easily blame people who are involved engaging in high-spread-risk behavior despite being a-(or, more likely if they are actually spreading it, pre-)symptomatic and who are thereby spreading the virus they don’t know they have.