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Re: Google Stories

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When can we expect to find Google Stories here? https://killedbygoogle.com/

If there’s any site I’d like to see converted to Google Stories, it’s killedbygoogle.com

At this time, killedbygoogle.com has become critical infastructure to remember us of the things that went wrong with the internet. Don't touch THAT running system!

Re: Google Stories

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An interesting hot take I read a while back (that I can't find) was that Google's strategy is generally "compete with every company on every product in order to build a moat, so that no one can touch search, which is the actual castle." And if you think about it makes a lot of sense -- Google competes with almost every other tech company on something, but no one competes with Google on search. The exception, perhaps,…

https://abovethecrowd.com/2011/03/24/freight-train-that-is-a...

That is exactly the article I was thinking of! Gotta love the internet.

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It's a protocol pushed by one company that wants to bend the web to fit it's purposes. To do that, Google ranks AMP pages more highly. And that's anti competitive and breaks search. One reason Google wants the whole web to be "standard" is so they can scrape all information more easily, show users rich content by stealing your website's traffic, and create an internet information silo.

Why is AMP worse than Facebook's "instant articles", or whatever it is that the Apple news app does?

Prevalence. Not GP and I don't use Facebook, but for what it's worth I hate recieving Apple News links too. No it's no worse than receiving bit.ly links to articles, but that doesn't happen to me.

Re: Google Stories

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Somebody at google is pushing for a huge salary bump and career boost, I guess.

That looks like the perfect thing outside of google's core business that's going to be killed in like a year or something.

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Ah geez, I really don’t want to derail this, but Magnus Carlsen is not one of the “best minds of our generation”, he’s remarkably good at a game that rewards memory and pattern matching. I don’t think even Magnus Carlsen thinks of himself in that way, no one in the chess world does, as far as I know. Most serious chess players don’t make the mistake of thinking their skills translate very well.

I mean, what does ”best mind” even mean though? For some definitions he might fit the bill.

For sure, a very good question. It's definitely a rabbit-hole that doesn't feel very productive to go down beyond, "here be dragons".

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Well, that's the complain isn't it? That the technical skills are being wasted on glorified marketing companies. If you hire Frank Lloyd Wright to design your bathroom, you can't use the fact that you end up looking at a toilet as proof that he's not great.

Well, they did come up with that "innovation", didnt they?

Not really, I don't think anyone's claiming that Google's managers and product owners are the geniuses the world is missing out on. It's the engineering skills that are considered wasted.

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Congrats, we are all old! Snapchat and Vine started it, and now TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook are all neck-deep in it. Every single one is dominated by this content in 2020, with perhaps the only area where text is still a main thing being Discord (although voice-chat is the attractive bit for gamers) & the streaming world (Twitch comments, youtube comments, niche Twitter communities). Whether we like it or not tha…

Yikes, I'm so out of touch. It guess it's the modern equivalent of flipping through pictures in a magazine, but I never really understood the entertainment value in that either.

Fwiw, it's the only way to post something on Youtube/Instagram/Facebook/etc. that: doesn't have a like count, has no comments, it's ephemeral, and anyone who responds to it basically is just sending you a private message than writing something everyone can see.

It's much better than posting the content normally and having to feel somewhat like a loser when nobody even likes/comments on it.

On Instagram I have like 6 photos uploaded the normal way. For years I've only used the "stories" system to engage with friends. It's far more personal. Don't knock it too quickly, you may find it's a step in the right direction.

I don't want it at the top of Google search as a marketing apparatus, though.

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post #114

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Congrats, we are all old! Snapchat and Vine started it, and now TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook are all neck-deep in it. Every single one is dominated by this content in 2020, with perhaps the only area where text is still a main thing being Discord (although voice-chat is the attractive bit for gamers) & the streaming world (Twitch comments, youtube comments, niche Twitter communities). Whether we like it or not tha…

> although voice-chat is the attractive bit for gamers Join any big Discord gaming group and I guarantee you'll see more people chatting via text than using the audio functionality.

Discord attracted gamers because they could sync up during games, raids, etc (and on top of that you can advertise it through your status too). Otherwise it's Slack for people who don't want to feel like they're at work, in line with the spirit of the last few generations of gacha games (boost this server by paying, get more emojis for yourself by paying, etc)

I agree that the text is the major activity going on at any given moment because text remains a good asynchronous repository, but if they hadn't basically integrated mumble/teamspeak to slack I'm not sure the glitter would have been enough to stick, because gamers (and some groups of discussions) definitely do rely on those voice lobbies when actually being present.

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I mean, what does ”best mind” even mean though? For some definitions he might fit the bill.

For sure, a very good question. It's definitely a rabbit-hole that doesn't feel very productive to go down beyond, "here be dragons".

Your argument just boils down to "I think not". Saying Magnus Carlsen doesnt have one of the best minds of this generation because he is "just" a chess player is like saying Erling Haaland is not one of the best athletes because he plays "soccer" not football.

If being the indisputable number 1 player for almost a decade and being in the conversation for being the GOAT of one of the oldest, most studied, more competitive mental sports in the world does not qualify you for that nothing does. I could hardly ever think of a better example.You can count PhDs in the hundred of thousands, SV engineers in the same range.There are 36 2700+ players in the world, there are 2 +2800 players.There has been only 1 WC in the last 7 years.

I have no idea also what you meant by "transferring skills" or do you think a a "genius" CS kid in Google can quit and tomorrow become a neurosurgeon? All people are specialists. Ironically is Magnum, again, who has demonstrated flexibility by topping Fantasy Football, a game played by millions.

It's you who doesn't seem to grasp anything about the world of chess. From the time commitment and skill needed to get to the very top (Some people has argued is equivalent to the effort of getting 2 PhDs)to the esteem and reputation they have in the society at large.People like Bobby Fischer, Gary Kasparov and Vladimir Kramnik, are considered veritable geniuses, in the same league of Fields Medals winners. Almost nobody in FAANGs is in that league.

Chess is not "just" memory and pattern matching (Although those are pretty impressive,many Nobel-worthy discoveries have been that),it is mental and physical stamina, imagination, ability to perform under heavy time pressure , creativity and almost all the qualities heavily linked to any intelectual work.

Re: Google Stories

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Am I the only one who, after reading the landing page, still has no idea what this is? I’ve been watching “immersive” websites for quite some time, mostly marketing-ish websites but also sometimes some special purpose pages from National Geografic or NYT. What exactly is this? A JavaScript/CSS framework? Something like AMP? Or is it a social network like Snapchat? I’m genuinely confused what I’m looking at and feel o…

This is one of the more humorous threads I've read in awhile. Instagram stories are among the most widely used social media features, and it seems like the majority of commenters here are completely unfamiliar with the format.

I know what stories are on the other apps... I don't know what this is: it sort of looks like it might be a library I can put on my website to make something that looks like stories, but it also sounds like it is on Google's website? Some people are saying it isn't on the website but is actually on the new tab page of Chrome? I'm seeing people say it involves AMP somehow?

Google should have 1) showed the context in which these show up and then 2) showed a snippet of code or metadata or whatever it was that made it work for some particular site, and then I feel like I would have gotten it; instead they threw up some marketing site that fails to answer even basic questions about what they are doing :/.

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