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Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #49

That explains all the new Telegram contacts :P

It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(

I wish Signal didn't require a phone number, otherwise everything else about it is nice. I don't want to be required to have a phone number, let alone provide it to them.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#232
post #167

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> Whether or not they are a monopoly is orthogonal to the issue of integration. So, I get you here and what you're saying. But companies at this scale argue they're "independently managed" or whatever. With that context, for Facebook , there's really no way of saying that these 3 different brands are independent when it comes down to it. It'd be much like Procter & Gamble saying their 100s of brands were all really d…

At the far end of this reasoning three separate companies that all use AWS share the same underlying infrastructure and all go down when AWS does. It doesn't mean they're not independently managed.

No, it’s relatively easy to go from one cloud platform to the other (thanks god for terraform). To go out of fb infra? I can’t even imagine.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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"Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome" With Facebook products, you see outages in December and May. Why? Those are the last few weeks to complete your project before your performance review. Miss this window and you find yourself in career trouble. Facebook employees put a tremendous amount of pressure on themselves during these months. I would not be surprised if this outage was caused by a bad pull…

Thanksgiving and Christmas are then some of the quietest times in terms of outages. Of course, the interval right after then is usually worse, since all of the backlogged changes from the holidays land at once. “Diff”, not PR.

There is a period just before the freeze which can also get a bit hectic, but we should be well beyond that point for most relevant services by now. Don't know the exact dates since I left in September. But your point stands: holiday freezes exist and are taken seriously.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#234
post #210

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At that point (around the time of the acquisition), I guess one could say there was significant overlap between FB and IG users, and that FB had more users than IG.

No, Instagram had a thriving mobile user base. Facebook was getting demolished by Twitter in this area at the time. FB knew the future was mobile

That clearly implies that the acquisition wasn't for the users but for the platform and the brand value associated with being present on mobile.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#235
post #202

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Depending on your current level, this can be the same thing (Facebook has an "engineering progression" - there's a time frame within which you're expected to be promoted to a certain level).

> there's a time frame within which you're expected to be promoted to a certain level What happens if you don’t? You get fired or put on a PIP?

You go through PSC as if you are the needed level.

So you're calibrated as if you are a 5. But if you're still a 4 because you're not delivering as a 5... then you'll fail to meet expectations, naturally. The rest sort of takes care of itself.

Pro tip: ask them for the severance instead of the PIP, and GTFO.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #87
post #49

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It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(

I'll switch to signal when they have reproducible builds on iOS.

A quick check didn't lead me to a single reproducible iOS app. What are you currently using?

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Why telegram and not signal?

why Signal and not wire? (no sim card needed), No need to allow access to your address book to make group chat. Works in browser, ios, android, desktop app. Using signal protocol. And you can draw in it.

I've been using Wire for a few years and the experience is solid. No need for phone numbers anymore, just @handle, and it does multi-device encryption and backup. Its search is very fast, even for large number of messages. Good support for attachments and superb audio and video.

On the flip side, it's not very customizable and doesn't have a lot of the more "modern" UX goodies like emoji reactions or threads. But it's overall very good and I see no reason to change.

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