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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

Yes, pretty frequently, actually. Despite the best efforts of a few folks, for instance, holocaust denial 'scholarship' has been suppressed incredibly effectively, and is not part of the common zeitgeist.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

While the sarcasm is dripping, it's also true. There clearly are people that can view a video and realize that it's is 100% BS. Yet, at the same time, there are other people that will watch it and 100% believe it. If it wasn't effective, it wouldn't be used.

Correct, the exact same way "some people" think indenting with tab is 100% BS. Yet, at the same time, there are "other people" that will indent TAB + 2 spaces every new line.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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I really hope something is done against Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai's content. He's been posting highly misleading/disingenuous election fraud material in order to gain a following, and people are believing it because he touts his PhD from MIT. Honestly at this point between his senate run and "Inventor of Email" scandal I'm surprised MIT hasn't had a response. For example, here's a video that debunks many of his claims: htt…

If that video debunks his claims it means something has been done against him.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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>Connecting people to authoritative information Top channels from picture. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com ABC: Left of Center NBC: Left of Center USA today: Left of Center CNN: Left CBS: Left of Center The "Authoritative Sources" are all Left-wing news agencies. So in other words they have done like Wikipedia. They have determined that Left of Center is authoritative and have limited the reach of alternative viewpoin…

For people who doubt your characterization of where the "center" is, consider this: 2/3 of Americans oppose the Supreme Court decision banning school prayer. Is your idea of a "centrist" person someone who believes school prayer would be a good idea if the law were different?

The median voter also supports single payer healthcare and [insert lots of extreme opinions supported by the median voter here]. Centrist designates something approximating "elite public opinion," not any actual idealized voter who falls in the middle in all his attitudes.

And once you accept that centrist is simply the designator for elite public opinion, most corporate media is clearly centrist, because they're basically clearinghouses for elite public opinion.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#235

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

It's a private company. If you don't like their slant, use another private company. I swear, it's like people have never had to cancel a newspaper subscription before.

Newspapers typically did not enjoy monopoly positions in the markets they served, and even for those that did, rarely did those translate into worldwide monopolies.

Also, because newspapers have an editor, they are liable for what they print. Google enjoys protections from these liabilities, even though they're clearly willing and capable of editing their users content.

The two situations are entirely different.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#236

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

While the sarcasm is dripping, it's also true. There clearly are people that can view a video and realize that it's is 100% BS. Yet, at the same time, there are other people that will watch it and 100% believe it. If it wasn't effective, it wouldn't be used.

The issue is that people see it as a failure of YouTube, when it is in fact, a failure of our education system.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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post #155

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

> has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong Say this is true. How would you recommend measuring this?

To me it is not so much about quantifying the effectiveness as it is about qualifying the results. This is not a trivial question as democracy, which is in essence a non-violent system for transition of power, relies on a nearly unanimous acceptance of the process and the results.

So, for introspection, and I know it is not a perfect analogy, but imagine you are at a scientific presentation, and you're gut feeling tells you there is a flaw in the arguments presented. So you pose a question but instead of receiving an answer that might lay to rest your misgivings, the speaker just says "That question is not allowed. Next.". How likely is it that that response changed your mind in favor of the theories presented?

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#240

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

This is directly in line with the future as prophetically described in Fahrenheit 451.
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