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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by aidenn0 »

davidwparker wrote: post #194
greggman3 wrote: post #118

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Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

I use Spotify and have great luck there. Playlists: Discover Weekly tends to result in ~3-5 (new to me) musicians/week that I hadn't heard of that I would actually listen to. That's a pretty high ratio IMO. Release Radar tends to result in ~1 (new to me)/week. Granted, it's supposedly mostly ones I listen to, but still has several I've never heard of. Daily Mix 1-6 are a mixed bag and sometimes result in something ne…

Discover Weekly was rather boring for me. It was about 6 weeks before I heard a song I hadn't heard before and only one musician I hadn't heard before in the 3 months I used it.

I had much better success with Pandora when I tried it, but it still wasn't exactly deep cuts.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by cyrialize »

greggman3 wrote: post #118
dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

Spotify is quite great at the Daily Mixes (I don't check the other playlists that much).

I go through phases where I deep dive into genre's. Each Daily Mix ends up representing one of the genre's I've been listening to lately pulling in music that I like and other songs that I may like.

That being said, that may be due to the fact that I deep dive into genres that don't have that much of a cross over, e.g. Japanese Hip-Hop & Lo-fi beats, R&B, 90's indie rock, etc. Still, the Daily Mixes are a great way to listen to music I like separated by genre.

Last.fm's discovery feature is pretty neat too. I don't use it as much as Spotify's because I don't listen to music on Last.fm but I think the key feature of Last.fm over other music discovery tools is that it has a profile for many artists.

Spotify, Apple Music, etc. are limited by what music is on their platform. If an artist isn't on Spotify, then they won't have a profile. Last.fm isn't limited that way so you can find even more artists, including artists that may be more underground or niche.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by HeadsUpHigh »

crispyambulance wrote: post #172
greggman3 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

> Which music service's discovery features actually work? It depends on what you mean by "work". Discovery capabilities have certainly gotten vastly better. 10+ years ago, the only decent one was the now (effectively) defunct Last.fm. These days, they're all pretty good. Spotify, pandora, google music, and now youtube music will do a good job of giving you recommendations based strictly on what you've been cue-ing up…

Spotify has gotten worse. They don't want you to listen to too much music, they want just enough to keep you subbed.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by HeadsUpHigh »

dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

How big is your collection and how well does it work with it ( and what resources does it consume)?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by gavin_gee »

greggman3 wrote: post #118
dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

all depends on how niche or diverse you previous listening history is

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by aidenn0 »

IndySun wrote: post #113

"Hi, we're Funkwhale. We use cool words like decentralized, self-hosted, music, server, and of course, funk & whale. If we named it more honestly, then our defunding of musicians and creatives that depended on sales wouldn't get any love (not publicly anyway), plus the ethically vacant developers would have to work on it secretly. And to be sure, we ourselves do not create or rely on income from artistic endeavours,…

> ...as people convince themselves digital theft is somehow not to be equated to physical theft.

Do you honestly thing the two are in any way equivalent? If I steal a physical item from you, you no longer have that item. If I download a copyrighted item that I never would have purchased, and you are entitled to royalties from then you lose nothing. If I download 100 items and I otherwise would have bought 5% of them, then you lose 5% of it.

Note also that libraries work similarly. I have checked out many hundreds of books out from the public library and read them. That also cost authors money, but we do not equate that to stealing. I have bought 100s of used CDs. I saved a lot of money and the record companies and artists collected no money for that either.

I also object to the concept that a creator has any moral right to monopolize their creations. There is no such moral right. The US provides for granting such a monopoly for a limited time in order to encourage people to create things. This has somehow morphed into the belief that someone creating something intangible has an indefinite monopoly on its use.

Such policy is actively harmful to the arts to the point of being detrimental to creators! Disney's Sleeping Beauty was a delightful film, if not a box office hit, but it would never had happened if the copyright laws (that Disney lobbied for!) we have today existed then, because Tchaikovsky's ballet would still have been under copyright.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by aidenn0 »

IndySun wrote: post #223
Lambdanaut wrote: post #184

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> it's carwhale, foodwhale, healthwhale. Keep going. Keep thinking. You're describing a post-scarcity utopia where we can spend our creative energy where we want and not be tied down to jobs that we hate in order to pay the bills. Yes, I would very much like that for everyone. Thank you for bringing this topic up. Let it come.

Haha. I've read that. Remind me, in this Utopia, who collects the trash?

Trashwhale?

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by aidenn0 »

IndySun wrote: post #129
Findeton wrote: post #115

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Well I helped create the Spanish Pirate Party so I strongly believe Funkwhale is perfectly moral. If my idols want some money, I'll be happy to go to a concert or buy their music from their webpage (but I don't think Jimi Hendrix will complain much these days).

Idols? Famous guitarists that have bubbled under your nose? What about new guitarists?

New guitarists benefit the least from recording sales because they get such terrible contracts from labels. I've known many up-and-coming bands that pirate their own songs to try and get people to come to their concerts.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by xook »

dbrgn wrote: post #220
Findeton wrote: post #105

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I cannot upvote Funkwhale enough. I've had the need for something like this for a long long time now. A decade ago I was lucky to have my own desktop computer (before it was a shared one with my brother, before that I had just my parent's from time to time). Nowadays, between the smarphone, the work laptop, my desktop and my laptop I cannot possibly have all my music available all the time. And I don't like using spo…

> I've had the need for something like this for a long long time now. Note that there are a few projects like this one, for example Subsonic or Mopidy. (Funkywhale certainly looks nice though!)

Throwing this out here - Airsonic is the current FOSS iteration of the software https://airsonic.github.io/

Subsonic went closed, and the rebrand to LibreSonic had some unrest with the maintainer, so Airsonic is leading the way in the line of *Sonics.

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