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Re: YouTube Down

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Post by eat_veggies »

nonbirithm wrote: post #227

With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

The notion of media that "actually helps" you is itself just as constructed as YouTube. Interrogate where it comes from and what sort of cultural work it's doing. Does "help" mean that it makes you a better worker? Why doesn't YouTube help you, and is that a bad thing?

Second, the good old days of "before" we were enterprising enough to invent big data etc. is retroactively constituted, and not apparent until its demise. Before YouTube it was television and radio, magazines and books, and even writing itself. On the technology of writing, Plato said "They will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks."

These constructions create the appearance of the industry's indestructibility -- certain consequences (the before, the help, or the livelihoods or subcultures you mention) are taken to axiomatic or self-evident, creating a logical construction that is bulletproof in its circular vacuousness. YouTube will die, just as websites before it have died, and technologies before it have died. What comes next might be better or worse.

That is to say, just enjoy your videos if they make you happy.

Re: YouTube Down

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Post by indecisive_user »

yreg wrote: post #186
_23sd wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's just because Downdetector is getting tons of traffic which makes it think people are having more issues than usual with virtually everything. I haven't heard any actual people say Spotify, Twitter, or Twitch are down.

There are reports on reddit about inability to download apps from Play Store, but I cannot verify. Doesn’t Downdetector count only users who click on “I have a problem with [service]”? It would seem dumb if all charts moved together any time there is a major outage of a single service.

Oh so that's what that was.

I just ran into that issue trying to download a few different apps an hour ago but figured it was my phone. Something is definitely up, too much of a coincidence for these issues to be happening at the same time

Re: YouTube Down

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Post by mdoms »

nonbirithm wrote: post #227

With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

> YouTube has only existed for fifteen years, but it might continue to exist for centuries

Get a grip. Media companies come and go. They always seem unassailable at their apex.

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Post by trentdk »

nonbirithm wrote: post #227

With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

On the flip side to your closing statement, YouTube has been a boon to DIY. What used to be trade secrets are now on display by people all all professions. Anecdotally, I’ve remodeled nearly my entire house over they past ten years with YouTube.

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Post by dodobirdlord »

cambalache wrote: post #142
gregsadetsky wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon's revenue is ~10k/second. Based on a recent 15B/year YouTube revenue figure I found, that would mean ~$500/second.

That's "peanuts" then, a couple of millions for `~1h down.

Early evening in North America is probably particularly valuable time.

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Post by lovehashbrowns »

soheil wrote: post #213

Now that YouTube is back up I take this opportunity to put this thread to a good use and ask what does it take to create an alternative to YouTube? Would love your opinions/wish list/must haves.

Our opinions and wish lists don’t matter. Content creators make money from being on YouTube. If you want to create an actual alternative, be ready to subsidize the income of a couple thousand content creators to the level that they can afford lambos. Then maybe you can create a competitor. Maybe. Because the step after that is to throw money at global infrastructure and still somehow make a profit.

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Post by bluedino »

I wonder how many little children were throwing fits because YouTube was down. And I mean literal children like my friends toddlers with tablets.

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Post by Xorlev »

dmingod666 wrote: post #190

This will be interesting and humbling for 'resilient services' advocates.. Nodes can be down but services will not go down.. I'd want to know what caused this. I'm guessing they're running on kubernetes, but it too early to tell what actually must have failed.. clearly there are points of failure and not sufficient backups to that point of failure..

It's not a secret that we use Borg, you can read about it online.

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Post by friendlybus »

nonbirithm wrote: post #227

With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

Youtube is a metaphysical sun bursting out with multiple different interpretations of any given topic, 90% of them subtlety wrong. Very few have anything original to say. They pad their ten minute timer with history, use youtube's suggested topics and only 1-2 minutes of the episode covers what you want, and usually from such a limited perspective that the little details will still trip you up. For every Ben Eater, there's thousands of poorly aimed videos that clog up your brainspace.

There's also people deliberately misrepresenting knowledge for clicks & selling products. Micheal Crichton was right not to be concerned about the fall of journalism. He said (to effect) anybody can write whatever they want. The value is in the edited content. Which he meant by mainstream, validated press agencies that used to control most intepretation. The concept still applies, most of youtube will not be missed.

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Post by jtxx »

trentdk wrote: post #234
nonbirithm wrote: post #227

With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

On the flip side to your closing statement, YouTube has been a boon to DIY. What used to be trade secrets are now on display by people all all professions. Anecdotally, I’ve remodeled nearly my entire house over they past ten years with YouTube.

yeah, the democratization of knowledge was 100% worth it. the only thing we can do from here is try to make it better
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