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> RIAA has shown They haven't shown anything. They made a claim. We'll know what rules we have to play by if it comes to a court ruling.

I mean, GitHub took it down, no?

You can claim anything, too. GitHub only checks if the Takedown is valid in format with necessary information provided.

Re: How journalists use youtube-dl

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post #186

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Section 1201 requires that the piece of software is meant primarily for infringing purposes. Which means that it being able to infringe alone isn't enough for it to violate 1201, but also that because it can be used for non-infringing purposes doesn't mean it doesn't violate 1201. As with many many laws intent matters and deciding intent is why we have judges and juries.

That sounds a lot like saying that it is, indeed, incoherent, but don't worry because we can get a judge to decide whether or not you're going to jail ex post facto, at a cost to you of more than you paid for your house (win or lose).

Computer people probably see the nondeterministic behavior in words like “primarily” as evidence of a bug. To the law school graduates who write the laws, it’s a feature and not a bug that these decisions are made by a judge in a courtroom.

Re: How journalists use youtube-dl

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post #104

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What browser are you using? Google has been known to make YouTube perform worse on browsers that aren’t Chrome.

Actually Chrome on Linux doesn't use hardware acceleration for video playback and never did, while the most recent Firefox almost does, if one turns a couple of experimental knobs.

Off topic but I just tried to move from MacOS to Pop!_OS and this is the main reason that I can't migrate now. No GPU Accel on Chrome means scrolling is horrid on QHD/higher resolution (besides YouTube being pretty much useless). Firefox is fine but there's no user profile modes to separate between my various profiles. With so much work being done on browsers, it feels weird that Linux is so behind on this. And Chrome seem to not want to implement the GPU acceleration at all. I guess I'll pay the Apple tax for the foreseeable future.

Re: How journalists use youtube-dl

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There are certainly legitimate uses for tools like y-dl. Those using online services for marketing purposes -which include copyrighted material- must be required to reach an agreement with those services to flag the status of those materials in a way that's transparent to software.

If I stream a file for an hour, I tie up a bunch of network resources for an hour. If I can legitimately DL that in 2 minutes, I'm using less net resources for a shorter time. Why in the hell should that be denied because some material is not in the public domain? Completely illogical result.

I watch a lot of long-playing material (I think is non-copyright but WTF do I know?) that I DL to timeshift and watch offline in chunks as time allows. Is that music concert from Poland that's up on Youtube copyrighted? That amateur history/science/education channel that asks for Patreon help? Screw RIAA (again)

Re: How journalists use youtube-dl

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> I don't think it's any more complicated than that it's because they can't roll ads on videos that are downloaded. That's certainly something they can do; they just don't do it. Compare movies on VHS tapes, which all roll ads before actually playing the movie.

Sure, Google could do but there's more than enough problems vs reward to make it unattractive: - When you fast forward VHS tapes you still see the adverts. When you time seek a digital video file you don't. - It's harder to do targeted advertising (since you no longer know if the downloader is also the viewer) - Adverts baked into a video file can't be changed out later for newer adverts after the user has downloaded…

What do you mean by "technical issues"? Google already has a streaming video player supporting multiple bitrates and formats. They could just do whatever youtube-dl does to pack it into a file or even more optimally, grab it from their video database directly should there be something like that.
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