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Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Samsung owner here. I use an Apple TV so I don't have to use the smart features of the TV and see ads, which I find offensive. But I'd rather reward a competitor for my next TV. Which brands don't do this?

Maybe toshiba? I have a 2012 model, and has no creap, but it may have changed.

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I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

I bought a $3500 Samsung TV. I realize that's an outlier. But I'd happily have paid $3600 not to have to worry about this.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Recent model toyota vehicles come with a "telematics" unit with a built-in SIM card that sends GPS data, driving data, video from the front camera, etc. to Toyota and the "agreement" in the manual says they can do ~whatever they want with it. If you power down the telematics module (by removing the fuse), the carplay microphone doesn't work (because the microphone runs through the telematics module). If you remove or…

Is there a way to shield/block the antenna without the Check Engine light coming on?

Yes, you can disconnect the antenna and attach a resister load there.

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There's reports of some models connecting to any open wifi networks, which would include your neighbours. And it's only a matter of time until they come with built-in sim cards

Recent model toyota vehicles come with a "telematics" unit with a built-in SIM card that sends GPS data, driving data, video from the front camera, etc. to Toyota and the "agreement" in the manual says they can do ~whatever they want with it. If you power down the telematics module (by removing the fuse), the carplay microphone doesn't work (because the microphone runs through the telematics module). If you remove or…

Car comes with built on radio, microphone goes through radio...

My god whyyyy do we do this.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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I spent around $1,200 on my 4K HDR Samsung TV a few years ago. It was great, but lately has been unbearably slow and frustrating to the point where we'd stop watching TV in the living room all together. Not a great experience. To try to remedy the issue (knowing it was slowed down by the disgusting ad platform), I installed a Pi Hole in the house to see if that would alleviate the problem. The TV felt a bit less clun…

Do another factory reset and when it comes time for the EULA question, just select “NO”. No more ads.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

#236

I used to work in advertising, and it's remarkable how clueless and out the industry is about consumer feedback on this. There's constant back patting without realizing the actual ire shoppers have after spending $2k on a TV and still being sold as a product.

Abject denial by a thousand paper cuts.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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> If you own an Internet-connected TV, you've been seeing these for 2 years or more How to prevent all Samsung tracking and advertising: 1. Factory reset your Samsung TV. 2. When promoted to accept the Samsung EULA, select no/reject 3. Attach computer or streaming stick to Samsung HDMI port (Windows, mac, chromebook, appleTV, chromecast, Amazon Firestick, Roku stick). I use an ancient PC with Linux Mint installed. Yo…

_Can_ you reject Samsung's EULA? My Q90T prompts me to accept it every time it's turned on, but the only option appears to be to accept it. I can't find a "no/reject" option. I do what you suggest in step (3), and never connect it the TV to a network, but it's still concerning.

I can on my 2019 model. Maybe they changed it? What happens if you ignore it and switch HDMI inputs with the remote?

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

#238
I'm still rocking a 65" Panasonic plasma connected to a laptop from the late 00's running an ancient build of ubuntu. That said, the TV still works flawlessly, even after everything around it died to 2 different lightning strikes. The old linux install still runs Hulu, Netflix, VLC, etc without difficulties, so I don't bother screwing with it.

It sounds like if I have to replace my TV, I am going to have to look into more expensive commercial offerings which aren't subsidized by Orwellian monitoring solutions.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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This, and the built-in voice assistant, is why I have a blanket rule that the smart TV will never touch the internet. If I want to stream things, that can go through the gaming PC that's right next to the TV.

How do you handle streaming when all of the services refuse to stream 4K on any computer? I think Netflix does HD bit Hulu and HBO are like 720p. It's like watching a torrent from 2005.

720 to 4K is not the same as 480p to 720. The latter is far more noticeable. Most of the world hasn’t moved to 4K, I don’t see a huge amount of value in it personally.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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I keep seeing people who argue that TVs would be notably "more expensive" if they didn't come with ads. Let's say that the average Samsung TV costs $1,000, ad revenue per person is around $30 a year, and the average lifespan of a TV is 10 years. I own a Samsung TV since 2016. I think they may have pushed 5 firmware updates since then. There is no way I can be convinced that Samsung needs to increase the price of TVs…

> why can't I just pay more and opt out Because they one day realised they can make you pay more and show you ads to get both of the moneys Honestly this is why I fully back adblockers of all kinds. Companies associated with ad tech would do much worse if they thought they could get away with it

People who could afford to opt-out have more money than people who can't, and are thus more attractive to advertisers. They want/need you in the consumer pool.
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