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Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by flanbiscuit »

atarian wrote: post #13

Palmer Luckey, the original creator had this to say over on /r/oculus: I am already getting heat from users and media outlets who say this policy change proves I was lying when I consistently said this wouldn't happen, or at least that it was a guarantee I wasn't in a position to make. I want to make clear that those promises were approved by Facebook in that moment and on an ongoing basis, and I really believed it w…

also interesting from that reddit thread were these comments:

> I'm mostly surprised that they haven't done this with Whatsapp or Instagram thus far, but they are doing it for Oculus accounts.

> > As of a few days ago, they're starting the process of moving Instagram DMs to Messenger, requiring a FB account. So, they are.

> > > The people I know in product at Facebook are certain it is an inevitability for their entire portfolio. That's second-party hearsay, so take it as you will, but it's my operating understanding that is their long term (multi-year) goal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/ic4ye1/new_oculus_u...

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by antonf »

Just ordered my Oculus Quest from Costco a week ago, and it's scheduled for delivery today. And I have no problem using Facebook account. Yeah, my data will be used for ads, so what? How is that such a big deal for some people to sell the device they otherwise enjoy?

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by [deleted] »

nerdponx wrote: post #183
umvi wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But did Facebook add any value (i.e. engineering money/hours) to improve the device? What you've listed are all negatives, but there have to be at least a few positives to come out of it.

there have to be at least a few positives to come out of it. Why does this have to be true at all? Let bad things be bad, and deal with them. Don't try to rationalize away problems.

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Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by draw_down »

jacquesm wrote: post #150
atarian wrote: post #13

Palmer Luckey, the original creator had this to say over on /r/oculus: I am already getting heat from users and media outlets who say this policy change proves I was lying when I consistently said this wouldn't happen, or at least that it was a guarantee I wasn't in a position to make. I want to make clear that those promises were approved by Facebook in that moment and on an ongoing basis, and I really believed it w…

As a CEO of a company that is being sold you can not make any binding statements about the future of the company you will no longer own . This is really management 101 and Palmer Luckey does not strike me as an absolute beginner here, he knew how to get funded, how to execute and had a ton of people telling him this would happen. Of course he and FB had a pretty strong incentive to ensure that there wouldn't be an im…

Could they not have written a clause into the acquisition that stipulated this? I agree with you, I just don't know if this is completely impossible. If a founder was truly serious about something like this (and if they had the leverage etc) they could probably make it happen.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by Akronymus »

eugeniub wrote: post #22

Well this is horrifying. I bought a Quest for a relative. He loves it, but he doesn't have a Facebook account, and has no interest in signing up. I have a Facebook account, but I don't use it, and I certainly don't want to connect my Oculus account. I guess we'll both have to sell our Quests. That means we'll lose all of our game purchases. I came to Oculus with eyes wide open knowing it was a Facebook company, but t…

> ... but he doesn't have a Facebook account,...

Not that he knows. https://theconversation.com/shadow-profiles-facebook-knows-a...

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by soulofmischief »

entropea wrote: post #5

>If you’re an existing user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years. At least this gives me enough time to sell my Oculus and buy from another company.

Isn't it cool how you can dust off your old Nintendo Entertainment Systems and give your kids a blast from the past? Share your childhood with them?

Well, that's a things from the past with hardware it seems. Effective obsolescence through corporate policy.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by kube-system »

mlindner wrote: post #216
saos wrote: post #106

Talking of login. I’ve just tried to login to EBay app using Google authentication. I have 2 step verification turned on. It now specifically requires gmail app to access the verification code. It no longer supports Apple mail app. Is this a sick joke? The only way around it was to send the verification code via tex. I'm so concerned now that Google will only send verification codes to Android device in the future.

I recently switched from using Chrome to Firefox. Next on my list is probably to try to wean myself off of using Google search. Getting my email off gmail is going to be harder and not sure what the best way to do that is.

Get a second email -- potentially at your own domain so you are never again locked to any particular service -- and use it in conjunction with gmail. Sign up any new accounts to your new email, and slowly migrate others as you see fit. After a year or two, your gmail will only receive spam, and anything important will be in your new account.

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by asddubs »

jacquesm wrote: post #198
vsareto wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm absolving Palmer of making a promise he couldn't keep because of Facebook. Palmer is correct here and shouldn't be getting the blowback that he is. Obviously Facebook can do what they want within the terms.

He knew it was a promise he could not keep because he was giving up control. You simply can not make promises like that it is beyond stupid to make promises about how a company will be run in the future when you are no longer at the helm. He should have known he couldn't promise that. He could not have known Facebook would do what they did but he should have been at least smart enough to know the limits of his own in…

it really seems a little willfully naive. if it's not in a contract, obviously any promise facebook makes is going to be on an "isn't inconvenient to do" basis
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