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In typical internet activist fashion, always assume malice. Zoom has 300 million participants a day. Even if they accidentally bans a Chinese activist with the same probability as any other person, the media will only report those instances because Zoom happens to have a Chinese American CEO.
You are understating the nature of Zoom's relationship to China.
I wonder if we'll hear the "they're a private company, they can do what they want, it is only censorship if the government does it" routine. I remember about a decade ago when certain parties were so concerned with voices being silenced and "erasure." The same people are now cheering when Facebook, Twitter, and the like shut down certain kinds of speech, with great discretion as to how the "rules" are implemented. Th…
The implication here is that they did it under pressure from the CCP, presumably because most (all?) of their programmers are from China. Blizzard got raked over the coals as well over a similar incident (search "blizzard blitzchung").
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> Security and ease of use are always a tradeoff. Security and ease of use are not by default mutually exclusive. Depending on circumstances satisfying both may be a challenge, but it’s not a blanket impossibility and we could probably hold certain companies up to a standard that corresponds to their multi-billion valuations. A virtual “slider” on which you can only dial up security by hurting usability is only a use…
> It’s worth keeping in mind that even though security and ease of use tend to inversely correlate with each other, they are not by default mutually exclusive. I actually disagree with you. I think security and ease of use are mutually exclusive. I can't think of a single counterexample where security did not have an effect on usability. Now to be clear, I absolutely believe we should have a lot more security than we…
1. HTTPS everywhere has zero impact on the usability of a website, but makes visiting those sites much more secure.
2. Apple's App Store model for installing applications improves security and is also easier to use for the average user.
3. 1Password with Touch/Face ID can actually be easier these days than entering emails and passwords manually.
4. And more…
Security doesn't always have an immediate effect on usability, and even when it does it isn't always negative.
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There is a vast difference between letting the government suppress speech, which is what China does, and letting private companies suppress speech, which is what happens in America. When the government does it, you can't express that idea anywhere. When private companies do it, you can still express those ideas somewhere else.
I would agree if there were multiple competing private companies with comparable market shares, representing the opinions of different social groups. This way, if certain companies started applying censorship that wouldn't reflect the interests of the users, they would lose the market share and would have to listen more to what people want. Instead, we have an effective monopoly on online search, monopoly on content…
I think that's exactly what's happening for certain online services eg iCloud[1], AWS China[2]
[1]https://money.cnn.com/2018/02/28/technology/apple-icloud-dat... [2]https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/13/aws-exits-china/
I'd just like to see more evidence and information before making judgment here. There's no response from Zoom whatsoever, which is odd. Could this have been other users maliciously reporting the account as abuse, and it was closed automatically? Or something else similar? Or if China is putting pressure on Zoom, then how exactly? If Zoom, an American company, really did intentionally close the account of someone livi…
Most of their devs are from china.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/zoom-key-profit-driver-ahead...
>Zoom disclosed in its IPO prospectus last week that most of its product development personnel are based in China
Presumably they don't want to lose their pool of cheap programmers.
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Zoom is a company I have loved so far, but a lot of this is starting to really rub me the wrong way and I really don't want to have to go find another solution. However, without some sort of reversal, this is enough for me to deal with the mess of doing that.
I will say Google Meet has gotten much better since the pandemic started, e.g. support for many more participants in its grid view.
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Zoom is a company I have loved so far, but a lot of this is starting to really rub me the wrong way and I really don't want to have to go find another solution. However, without some sort of reversal, this is enough for me to deal with the mess of doing that.
I've tried Google Meet, Jitsi, and some other things, but Zoom is the only service that my 6+ year old laptop can handle for more than 5 min without nosediving into 100% CPU usage and freezing up. Does anyone have other suggestions? Either for other services or for troubleshooting Jitsi?
[1] https://peercalls.com/ [2] https://tedpiotrowski.svbtle.com/moonlite
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I've tried Google Meet, Jitsi, and some other things, but Zoom is the only service that my 6+ year old laptop can handle for more than 5 min without nosediving into 100% CPU usage and freezing up. Does anyone have other suggestions? Either for other services or for troubleshooting Jitsi?
You could give Whereby [1] a try. I really liked it when it was named "appear.in" (that's now a completely different company), and used it for a bit, until my work switched to Teams. Whereby is, as far as I can tell, completely owned by a Norwegian registered company. 1: https://whereby.com
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At least you recognize your slippery slope fallacy when you make it!
I have stopped regarding it as a fallacy. It seems to be something of a predictive measure at this point.