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Re: Firefox 74

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How is chromium better than chrome? It's the same program, minus some blobs.

Some users may not like the blobs.

I mean, sure, but chromium is still happy to spy on you, integrate with Google services, and contributes to the Blink monoculture. I'm just surprised that there are people who would object to Chrome on principle and not to chromium.

Re: Firefox 74

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I don't know what is up with mozilla/firefox. I'm still using firefox but not because I like it, only because the alternatives are worse. I signed up for a firefox account almost right after they were announced. At the time and multiple times since I've unsubscribed from "all" their emails because I'm not interested in them. They just either invent a new list and auto-subscribe me to it or they just ignore my prefere…

I've been using Firefox since they announced their major overhaul whenever that was, and got a Firefox account to sync with when that became available -- I don't remember getting any email from them at all.

Maybe the are being sorted into your spam folder?

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The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

I use FF, I don't use FB, but I still think this is wrong. Browser is not a place to decide which companies are good and which are bad. As much as I despise Facebook I still don't think it's fair. "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". All companies should have the same access to the technology in user's browser. Favoring Google by Chrome seems no different than blocking…

You realize Facebook Container is not part of Firefox, it's an extension you have to install yourself.

Re: Firefox 74

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> Why is it OK to be track by Apple or Netflix? That is not what I asserted. I asserted I don't care about it. I don't believe Netflix tracks me outside of .netflix.com and I don't believe Apple tracks me outside of .apple.com (and the other domains ofc). If they do, you have to convince me it is harming my interests (ie. my privacy or freedom of choice). I know Google tracks me, I know Facebook tracks me. Their prof…

But there are thousands big ones out there. Cloudflare, Cloudfront, Baidu, Yandex, Akamai, Tencent, Twitter, Yahoo, Disqus, Uber, Airbnb, Pinterest etc. Why bring up Apple and Netflix specifically?

Probably because there are containerizer addons for Apple and Netflix, specifically, and not for the other sites you mention.

Re: Firefox 74

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I wish every domain could automatically be opened in an individual container. I don't even need to know about them.

Ask and ye shall receive: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con... I use this in combination with "normal" containers and it works a treat

Just curious: is there significant overhead to running each domain in it's own container?

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Personally, I don't want to micromanage "containers" as a user. I truly don't understand why this is considered a nice feature. Who wants to micromanage anything? What I want is for every web page to run in its own container by default. Zero configuration. If it wants to access anything outside of its allowed domain hiearchy (like call an external API), I'd like the browser to ask for permission on its behalf. "Githu…

I don't want to sound dismissive of your proposal, it'd be great to have a more restrictive set of defaults to prevent tracking... But just consider the automatic way a regular user clicks at any prompt that gets in their way out of habit... I am guilty of this sometimes, even though I try to be mindful and always try to opt-out of tracking cookies, etc. I think the system you're proposing has to have some sort of sm…

Whatever system is used, it would have to be low-noise, yes.

Re: Firefox 74

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The Facebook container is great, but I wish there was an option for the built-in Multi-Account containers to work this way. I've been doing what the Facebook Container extension does, but with built-in containers, and the experience is very clunky. The two biggest issues are that I can't give the container a list of domains beforehand and say "everything under google.com should open here". I have to go to each Google…

Personally, I don't want to micromanage "containers" as a user. I truly don't understand why this is considered a nice feature. Who wants to micromanage anything? What I want is for every web page to run in its own container by default. Zero configuration. If it wants to access anything outside of its allowed domain hiearchy (like call an external API), I'd like the browser to ask for permission on its behalf. "Githu…

I use Temporary Containers for getting each web page to run in its own container: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

When I want to stay logged into anything I self-manage and create a named container. (This requires micromanaging but is at least opt-in.)

But the default of separate temp containers is great.

Re: Firefox 74

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I don't know what is up with mozilla/firefox. I'm still using firefox but not because I like it, only because the alternatives are worse. I signed up for a firefox account almost right after they were announced. At the time and multiple times since I've unsubscribed from "all" their emails because I'm not interested in them. They just either invent a new list and auto-subscribe me to it or they just ignore my prefere…

Forcing a login to unsubscribe from a marketing email is a serious dark pattern and a quick way to get me to flag that email as spam.

Re: Firefox 74

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post #147

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Trust a small portion of a web browser company instead of an entire company dedicated to the security application?

Absolutely zero trust in for-profits, especially ones who only care about an exit or getting bought by Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc. It'll be too late to get your data out of their hands at that stage. Regardless, so far we've seen that no software/company is 100% reliable, no matter what their expertise...

Mozilla Corporation is technically a for-profit company.
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