And this sucks for the rest of the country because these people have no sepf awareness and will vote for the same dumb policies that screwed up their original homes.
Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
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Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#232Sonoma County, CA here. We've lost more people from our county than any other in the state between 2017-2018 [1], and it is only continuing. From the few of these people I have spoken with - anecdotally: - None left because of the fire risk, specifically. [though some obviously did - 2] - Most left because of the cost of living: $600k avg home price. - Some also left because of political and human environment: We hav…
I work remotely but just moved to Sonoma county because my partner got a job here. The house prices are really insane. Seems most people here are either rich retirees or people whose families have lived here for a long time and made a ton of money with real estate bought before prices exploded. I don’t see any jobs here that would even remotely justify the house prices. It’s a beautiful area but the economy is pretty…
Weird is certainly the word for it. The SF real estate catastrophe is pushing up prices here, particularly the south end of the county, while (in the small tech scene at least) salaries haven't adjusted. I've lived here since 2011 but I don't think I would start here today. But of course, anyone who bought a house 20 years ago is just fine since their costs are fixed. Renters and recent buyers pick up the tax bill. Thanks a lot, Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association!
(Seriously, Prop 13 is awful policy.)
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "we don't want anyone who isn't upper middle class" This is precisely what it is. They're teachers , for crying out loud. The US hasn't really done 'giant tower block' public housing for decades. That's just scare tactics.
In that case, then I think it would be reasonable to criticize them. Although, it still seems to me that it wouldn't hurt to put something in the law that specifically says that they won't build giant tower blocks.
The more you read about this stuff, you realize that there's some real ugliness there - now and in the past. Maybe not everyone, but it goes well beyond the original intent of zoning to keep housing away from factories and tanneries and such.
https://www.sightline.org/2018/05/25/a-century-of-exclusion-...
Of course, in places like San Francisco and Portland, people are mostly smart enough to not "say the quiet part out loud", so they come up with other excuses.
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They mentioned Houston. I'm currently living in Houston, working as a SWE, and can attest to the pros of living here. Regarding your concerns, the city is quite demographically diverse from people of all walks of life. Summers do get hot and humid, but nothing unbearable. The winters are more than tolerable (its currently 68 degrees outside) as well.
There's a reason why downtown Houston has an underground tunnel system for people to walk between buildings to avoid going outdoors.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#235Sonoma County, CA here. We've lost more people from our county than any other in the state between 2017-2018 [1], and it is only continuing. From the few of these people I have spoken with - anecdotally: - None left because of the fire risk, specifically. [though some obviously did - 2] - Most left because of the cost of living: $600k avg home price. - Some also left because of political and human environment: We hav…
> Petty crime is increasing, and state laws are only enabling this - people are sick of it. I wonder if people considered voting the politicians who made these laws out. Judging from CA voting patterns, probably not. And then when it gets really bad, they move to another state and likely vote for the same policies that caused them to move in the first place.
They not only don't vote them out, but they double down on their voting patterns.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think your comment is a good one. > Houston is one of, if not the, most ethnically diverse city in the US. It's worth pointing out that this is in no small part because Houston is affordable. I don't care for that kind of sprawl and would prefer other ways of building 'enough' to be affordable ( https://www.sightline.org/2017/09/21/yes-you-can-build-your-... ) but still, it is affordable, and there are a lot of opp…
This article argues that segregation is prevalent in Houston. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/...
I don't doubt it. And at a statewide level, you'd have to look at news like the small-minded governor excluding legal refugees (something that other very red states like Utah haven't done).
But look up San Francisco's racial makeup vs Houston's and... you can make the case that there's at least a place in the same city for a lot more people in Houston.
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their say is their ability to move away. Neighborhoods change. The irony is that when they moved in, their neighbors were complaining about all the change happening. Here in Cupertino, everyone says, "this should all be single family homes!". If you look at the old newspapers from the 30s and 40s, everyone was saying, "We should remain farmland!". Why is it that the people who built the single family homes happen to…
The way to do this is to repeal prop 13. This will force people to sell and move.
So you want to create a upper middle class transient population that is mostly tech workers?
Because if prop 13 is repealed..after 15-20 years of work, the retired tech employees can’t afford annual increase in taxes either.
Or is this just to get seniors to leave Bay Area by making it unaffordable for them?
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Houston. It is very humid. Most of the time. But we have air conditioning. Every place has air conditioning. And it run's constantly. But still my power bill is just a fraction of what it was in California. From late fall through early spring the weather is very California-like: cool and crisp in the morning and warm and dry in the afternoon.
If you accept a life spent indoors in air-conditioned spaces you weren't taking advantage of what you were paying for in California.
For one thing, the post implied that being indoors came with the higher humidity in Texas. But assuming that the poster really did "accept a life spent indoors in air-conditioned spaces" as you reflexively assume, what is this extra high taxation paying for in California that the person wasn't taking advantage of?
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Are you saying that if you are 10 ft above water you'll be fine in Florida even when areas under 10ft flood? I really doubt that. It is not about actually losing your home, it is about quality of life, the main reason for moving there in the first place. There will be a big cost of any flooding, borne by all Floridians
Yes, and Florida real estate market fundamentals as well as the mortgage bond market and property insurance support my thesis. I specifically paid for sea level rise models before buying Florida real estate, and will likely sell before I die and sea level rise has meaningfully occurred. I-4 and I-75 will be untouched, and other infra is already designed around the Florida environment (hurricanes, high water table). S…
Curious, what areas did you find most inciting?
Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?
#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
FYI - Austin is as blue as they come (and way less of the neoliberalism you see in SV). Houston from what I can tell has become much more liberal too (partly because a large influx of Katrina refugees). Hot take - with all of the migration to Texas, this state will be blue in the next 10 years. The only "conservative" things you find in those areas is (1) big trucks (2) guns (3) tobacco (4) sports. Not much different…
> Hot take - with all of the migration to Texas, this state will be blue in the next 10 years. And will have all the problems of California, New York, etc. in another 10-20 years after that.
As long as no Prop 13 gets voted in it should be much better than California.
Everyone complaining about policies in California make it sound like Texas is perfect. I'm pretty sure it could use a lot of improvements on its policies. There are some large factors that have had a disproportionate effect on the housing problems California faces and one of those is Prop 13 so it is much better to focus on avoiding repeating those mistakes than making general blanket statements.