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Re: Working for someone vs. doing your own thing

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Post by n4r9 » Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 5:50 PM UTC

mettamage wrote: post #127

n4r9 wrote: post #99

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Absolutely. It's impossible to bring yourself to take risks and leave your comfort zone if the outside world is a terrifying and malicious place.

What I personally experience is that whenever I'm in a verbal fight with my SO (for example), I'm physiologically ready to physically fight (though I never actually fight, I'm simply hyper aware and prepared for it, it's an automatic thing). I've learned that there are people who don't have this response, they simply keep it on an emotional level. These people also never experienced or saw any physical fight during c…

Yeah I'm almost the exact opposite. I did a lot of martial arts when I was younger but never had any actual fights. Not serious ones. By the time I reached adulthood I had no idea how to act in either verbal or physical fights and was avoidant of confrontation. It's hard work but I'm gradually getting the hang of being present and holding my own in tough conversations. It's still very rare for me to get angry rather than just irritated, defensive or passive aggressive. When I do get angry it simmers in the background without any outlet, and either dies away or eventually explodes in a weird, unexpected way.

I was thinking more about people who grow up with very little, i.e. aren't sure if their parents are going to put food on the table that day. If you start out like that but manage to get a steady job etc..., I think it can be much harder to take risks like changing career or being assertive in certain situations.

Re: Working for someone vs. doing your own thing

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Post by malnourish » Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 10:15 PM UTC

simpss wrote: post #55

Thorentis wrote: post #33

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> $530/mo Wow. Just wow. As an Australian, I cannot fathom having to include $530 into my monthly budget just to ensure I don't end up homeless (or heavily in debt) if I get really sick. I'm not a socialist (I'm quite a centrist when it comes to economic policies), but something about the US system absolutely must change.

Not sure how it works in Australia, but if i break down my salary by taxes in Eastern Europe, I'm paying 33% "social tax" which comes out to around 1900€/month. This breaks down further to 2 groups. One for pension and the other for healthcare. Pension is 20% from the total. (used to pay the current pensions) Healthchare is 13% from the total. This comes out at around 990€/month for "health insurance". There are adva…

The healthcare costs for insurance in the US don't include the costs of actually visiting the doctor or getting medicine. You still have to pay for those, amount dependent on the terms of your plan.

For example, a routine doctor's office visit can cost hundreds in addition to the monthly fee you pay.

Last year I paid $300/month for my medicine, in addition to other costs.

Re: Working for someone vs. doing your own thing

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Post by manigandham » Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 1:27 AM UTC

Polylactic_acid wrote: post #133

manigandham wrote: post #111

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Pressure can also make diamonds and I know a lot of people who have become incredibly driven and successful precisely because of what they went through, while others who have had it easier tended to coast through life.

I see privilege as both a head start and a multiplier to your individual effort. People who put in no effort will still end up nowhere unless they have an absolutely enormous amount of privilege that allows them to succeed on a head start alone. Someone with little privileged who puts in a huge amount of effort can overtake someone with a high privilege who puts in a normal amount of effort.

Sure, same goes with luck, skill, natural abilities, etc. It's all an outcome from several major inputs.