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Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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If you're going for a perfectly maintained look to wild plantings, then yeah, that's a a lot of work. We've replaced our lawn with wild savanna, and it's zero work. We just let it go. It looks totally wild, and I'm happy with that. (Getting it in place - removing the invasives, improving the soil, planting trees, and spreading native wildflower and grass seeds was a lot of work - but since its established its very li…

In New England letting grasses flourish would also provide a home for ticks and Lyme disease. I try to be friendly to pollinators but unfriendly to ticks.

Get a couple chickens? I'm only partially joking, they do eat a ton of ticks.

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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If you're going for a perfectly maintained look to wild plantings, then yeah, that's a a lot of work. We've replaced our lawn with wild savanna, and it's zero work. We just let it go. It looks totally wild, and I'm happy with that. (Getting it in place - removing the invasives, improving the soil, planting trees, and spreading native wildflower and grass seeds was a lot of work - but since its established its very li…

You're telling people that they "need" to change their subjective appreciation of what constitutes beauty and aesthetic pleasure? I mean this as sincere constructive criticism, you will not win support for sustainability with such a demand. People don't enjoy being told how they "need" to feel about something as personal as aesthetic experience. Focus on how sustainability is good for people and how it will improve t…

Except they need to change their aesthetics

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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If you're going for a perfectly maintained look to wild plantings, then yeah, that's a a lot of work. We've replaced our lawn with wild savanna, and it's zero work. We just let it go. It looks totally wild, and I'm happy with that. (Getting it in place - removing the invasives, improving the soil, planting trees, and spreading native wildflower and grass seeds was a lot of work - but since its established its very li…

You're telling people that they "need" to change their subjective appreciation of what constitutes beauty and aesthetic pleasure? I mean this as sincere constructive criticism, you will not win support for sustainability with such a demand. People don't enjoy being told how they "need" to feel about something as personal as aesthetic experience. Focus on how sustainability is good for people and how it will improve t…

We tell serial killers with an appreciation for the grotesque to cut it out all the time.

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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If you can't get rid of the lawn due to HOA regs or local laws try clover. Most folks won't notice the difference and bees love it. One my old elementary schools still has a huge clover field and the bees still come around for the flowers during Spring.

This is the viable alternative, having similar aesthetics to a traditional lawn. However there's still a fair amount of push-back. I just bought a house and am planning a clover lawn this spring, and discussing it with extended family over the holidays was met with a large amount of skepticism.

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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post #206

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If you're going for a perfectly maintained look to wild plantings, then yeah, that's a a lot of work. We've replaced our lawn with wild savanna, and it's zero work. We just let it go. It looks totally wild, and I'm happy with that. (Getting it in place - removing the invasives, improving the soil, planting trees, and spreading native wildflower and grass seeds was a lot of work - but since its established its very li…

Oh- so you're that neighbor. It's not just a change in your aesthetics that's needed. If you live in a community then it's prudent to get community buy-in. Especially if you have kids. Community reputation means a lot more than some people realize. Source: I've been on both sides of this one.

Ah so you're that neighbor that's concerned about what everybody else is doing rather than minding your own business.

There's nothing wrong with a yard full of native plants. You should stop trying to keep up with the neighbors and start letting people live their lives without your input.

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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> But the whole 'using water' claim is muddied. The water the animal drinks passes through it and into the ground. Yes, it's not like the water is destroyed. It may be diverted from directly flowing into a river, sure, and perhaps goes straight back to the atmosphere rather than into the sea via evaporation, exhalation, and transpiration... but it's not gone .

I don't really see the point of this argument, isn't this true for basically _all_ water usage?

Not really. If you put water on plants, most of it evaporates. Example: https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/sustainable...

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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If you can't get rid of the lawn due to HOA regs or local laws try clover. Most folks won't notice the difference and bees love it. One my old elementary schools still has a huge clover field and the bees still come around for the flowers during Spring.

This is the viable alternative, having similar aesthetics to a traditional lawn. However there's still a fair amount of push-back. I just bought a house and am planning a clover lawn this spring, and discussing it with extended family over the holidays was met with a large amount of skepticism.

That's sad. Clover is easier to manage and it's actually softer on your feet. So if you have kids who want to play outside and forget their shoes they won't get scratched up like you would on some more durable grass species.

Re: Renowned Entomologist Says ‘Get Rid of Your Lawn’

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Getting rid of our lawn and growing other stuff has been amazingly fulfilling. I have fresh produce most of the year, I've got honeybees and bumblebees and mason bees coming around. I have to do a lot less maintenance, and when I do it's more varied and interesting. Everything from fruit trees to berries, flowers to vegetables, herbs to herbal teas like chamomile. Strongly recommend looking at what will grow in your…

> Chunk out a four by four foot section and grow some sugar peas and tell me it wasn't a thousand times more rewarding than a lawn.

If you have an HOA - there might be a bit of problem...

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