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Re: PinePhone Review

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The UK government "settled status" application procedure for EU nationals resident after Brexit was only available as an Android app. Otherwise you had to apply in person at a specific site. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/03/mps-slam-an...

It should have been a website. Why on earth was it an app? Presumably so it could spy on the other data on your phone.

So it could read the RFID tag in the passport.

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Can you provide more info on this Twilio mini-telco? I’ve been working on something similar to work around the lack of well supported libraries for telephony

My phone uses a sim card from a verizon MVNO. I don't even know the phone number. "My" phone number was provisioned, and has always lived, in Twilio. I set up a simple call forward and SMS forward to my SIM number. When I land in a foreign country, I get a new sim card and just point the forwards to the new number. Easy. I wrote a shell script that allows me to SMS from the command line from my phone number . So I ca…

Damn this star-71 explanations sounds like an article from a 2600 issue :-)

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"Of course, no one wants to place phone calls by typing a lengthy command into their terminal" Are you kidding ? That is all I've ever wanted to do . I have been asking, casually, for a "gnu-phoneutils" package for several years that would give us a small phone tooling suite ... I have largely built this out myself with twilio and, in some ways, it is no longer necessary given that I have built my own little mini-tel…

unicsy_demo [1][2] is probably what you're looking for.

It's packaged and available for Maemo Leste and postmarketOS, both of which run on the PinePhone.

[1] https://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/139660.html

[2] https://github.com/pavelmachek/unicsy_demo/

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Microsoft couldn't do it because everyone new (of the users) that even if they put in their effort to switch and wait for the ecosystem to grow, they will end up with just the same crap: another closed-source monopoly with it's own quirks. We won't have just two overlords, but instead 3 of the same. Wow such a difference... Now an truly open system might make a difference. Not saying it will, it has it's own problems…

You overestimate how many people care about whether something is open or closed source. I had a Windows Phone. It was bad. Even Microsoft apps were subpar. Skype app was simply unusable. They weren't dogfooding. Also Google torpedoed it.

The only question I'd ask is : how many phones should they sell to break even ? Cos if they actually make some profit, that's just fine. Maybe they don't aim to go to mass market. And that's why MSFT may have failed : they tried to fight on Google's ground, head to head. Of course Pine can't do that. So if they just repeat what's been done for Raspberry, that's just great enough to have a living ecosystem.

I personaly just need SMS, voice and a browser. The rest, I can live without it (or program it :-)

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"Of course, no one wants to place phone calls by typing a lengthy command into their terminal" Are you kidding ? That is all I've ever wanted to do . I have been asking, casually, for a "gnu-phoneutils" package for several years that would give us a small phone tooling suite ... I have largely built this out myself with twilio and, in some ways, it is no longer necessary given that I have built my own little mini-tel…

You might want to check out jmp.chat ... it does SMS via XMPP and can place phone calls via SIP all on a fully free-software stack that you could modify and use independently if desired.

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Can you provide more info on this Twilio mini-telco? I’ve been working on something similar to work around the lack of well supported libraries for telephony

My phone uses a sim card from a verizon MVNO. I don't even know the phone number. "My" phone number was provisioned, and has always lived, in Twilio. I set up a simple call forward and SMS forward to my SIM number. When I land in a foreign country, I get a new sim card and just point the forwards to the new number. Easy. I wrote a shell script that allows me to SMS from the command line from my phone number . So I ca…

For people who are looking for a similar setup, jmp.chat is an alternative service built on free software and a voip provider like twilio. They forward SMS over XMPP and you can make calls with any old SIP client. Its literally a bunch of ruby scripts, a very charming project. I jumped ship from twilio after they made payments without a credit card impossible for small-timers like myself.

Re: PinePhone Review

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Can you provide more info on this Twilio mini-telco? I’ve been working on something similar to work around the lack of well supported libraries for telephony

My phone uses a sim card from a verizon MVNO. I don't even know the phone number. "My" phone number was provisioned, and has always lived, in Twilio. I set up a simple call forward and SMS forward to my SIM number. When I land in a foreign country, I get a new sim card and just point the forwards to the new number. Easy. I wrote a shell script that allows me to SMS from the command line from my phone number . So I ca…

> if perhaps you called yourself and then set up some logic where you type in the phone number you really want and then twilio forwards you there

It would be cumbersome to have to do that manually, but have you looked into any of the 3rd-party dialer apps on Android? They'll dial the prefix specified before dialing the number that was entered.

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Can you provide more info on this Twilio mini-telco? I’ve been working on something similar to work around the lack of well supported libraries for telephony

My phone uses a sim card from a verizon MVNO. I don't even know the phone number. "My" phone number was provisioned, and has always lived, in Twilio. I set up a simple call forward and SMS forward to my SIM number. When I land in a foreign country, I get a new sim card and just point the forwards to the new number. Easy. I wrote a shell script that allows me to SMS from the command line from my phone number . So I ca…

Google Voice (née GrandCentral) also has the phone number indirection-layer feature. It's a product and not a developer tool, so it lacks some of the more advanced features (eg command line access), but it's far more accessible to non-developers.

Google's uses Google Voice as part of GoogleFi, so hopeful it won't be killed off any time soon.

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You don’t need your Raspberry PI to run your bank app, handle your payments or your bus-tickets. I’m not sure how I’d even purchase a non digital ticket for quite a few things in Denmark. Don’t get me wrong, I really hope something like PinePhone sees enough adoption to get the apps I need a smartphone to run so I can break away from the two monopolies. I just don’t believe it will happen when Microsoft couldn’t do i…

So how do people without phones participate in society? I don't use a google account on my phone, so that means no App Store. I'm trying to one day get rid of my google account too. It doesn't cause me many issues in the UK though I can't use things like Uber, and that's no loss to me. How would I get on in Denmark?

According to the Lloyds website they (and other UK banks) are going to start sending an auth code to your phone as part of the web logon. Though I believe you can ask them to send you a security gadget as an alternative. It is a PITA though.

Re: PinePhone Review

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My phone uses a sim card from a verizon MVNO. I don't even know the phone number. "My" phone number was provisioned, and has always lived, in Twilio. I set up a simple call forward and SMS forward to my SIM number. When I land in a foreign country, I get a new sim card and just point the forwards to the new number. Easy. I wrote a shell script that allows me to SMS from the command line from my phone number . So I ca…

Google Voice (née GrandCentral) also has the phone number indirection-layer feature. It's a product and not a developer tool, so it lacks some of the more advanced features (eg command line access), but it's far more accessible to non-developers. Google's uses Google Voice as part of GoogleFi, so hopeful it won't be killed off any time soon.

I use Google Voice for just voicemail.

Similar to what the parents does, I use "conditional call forwarding" to send all non-answered calls to Google Voice. When I get a voicemail, GVoice then sends me a transcription of the message.

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