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Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#231
You see someone struggling while trying to solve a problem, and you know that –in your opinion– there's an obvious solution to that problem called [𝓍]. The thing you're after, is whether they have considered using this solution.

Just ask them:

=> "Have you considered using [𝓍]?"

Either you will learn something new (why [𝓍] is not suitable for this situation), or they will (there is [𝓍] that solves their problem).

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#232
post #176

My take from personal experience: Removing the "just" obviously makes it less condescending: => Why didn't you use sshd? Removing the "you" could make it less personal: => Why was sshd not used here? Removing the past-tense makes it more forward looking (the past can't be changed, but people often defend their past decisions especially because they are unchangeable, the future however is less threatening): => Could s…

Did you (try|consider) sshd? "Yes, it wasn't suitable because..." "No?" Ah ok, I think it'd work really well here because... Direct, no assumptions, no trick questions, no toes trodden on.

The directness here is important. If you start playing word games to imply things (non-threatening, non-accusative) etc., you confuse the message. You know what's worse than a threatening or accusative question? One where the recipient spends their time trying to guess what second meaning might be implied with the obviously convoluted wording. Clear, direct questions that have only one distinct query.

>> Would there be any tradeoffs using sshd here?

Some might focus on the tradeoffs as the primary query, but others might assume that the real intent is press for an alternative to sshd. It sounds like you know something, but didn't want to say it, and now you want me to infer it from your question.

Some people might be offended or sensitive to direct questions, but that's for them to work through with their therapist.

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#233
post #207

There's no reason to be jumping straight in with "why" in this situation at all, one can perfectly reasonably ask "have you tried using sshd". Why doesn't the author just try putting it that way?

He mentions that there are complaints about even that approach.

The secret of all this is that the complaints have absolutely nothing to do with the approach - it's pure slave morality.

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#234
To better remove the criticism, add some honesty and objectivity...

"One of the first things I would think of, when trying to solve a problem like this, would be sshd. But, I may not understand the full scope of your problem."

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#236

I would feel offended if anyone would feel the need to go easy on me, just say what you think. And if you are right I will be eternally grateful for being taught a new efficient trick. Do I look like such a weak person to you that you feel like you have to handle my self esteem with silk gloves? Thanks for the insult. And what is it with this 2 intentions? The third is the obvious correct one where I'm not familiar w…

> I would feel offended if anyone would feel the need to go easy on me "go easy on me" means "condescend", so you're essentially doing the same as the people mentioned: feeling offended because they perceive condescension from the speaker. > Do I look like such a weak person to you that you feel like you have to handle my self esteem with silk gloves? > Making things up in your head The phrase he came up with doesn't…

I thought his first paragraph was just being illustrative. Like look how crazy this gets.

I suppose now I'm deriving meaning in my head.

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#237
post #17

"Why wouldn't sshd do the job here?" Take "you" out of it. The question is about the problem and the solution, not the person.

This is just magical thinking - saying the right incantation is going to make everything ok. It doesn't work that way. This is all about the worship of weakness, a peculiarly American kind of power play where the goal isn't to gain any power, but to avoid any kind of value judgment at all.

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#239
post #176

My take from personal experience: Removing the "just" obviously makes it less condescending: => Why didn't you use sshd? Removing the "you" could make it less personal: => Why was sshd not used here? Removing the past-tense makes it more forward looking (the past can't be changed, but people often defend their past decisions especially because they are unchangeable, the future however is less threatening): => Could s…

Did you (try|consider) sshd? "Yes, it wasn't suitable because..." "No?" Ah ok, I think it'd work really well here because... Direct, no assumptions, no trick questions, no toes trodden on.

Actually, the unfavorable assumption here is that the interviewee did not consider easy solution sshd.

Re: Help me ask why you didn't just

#240
post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I hate it when my PRs come back like this. I made a PR so my code and my decisions could be reviewed and critiqued. If you have some criticism, just tell me what it is and why you think that. I have learnt so much from highly critical PRs, I hate to think where I’d be without them. Personally I think it’s much more productive to create a culture where criticism is made openly and without being taken as a p…

Thank you, I appreciate your take on this. I personally also like to learn from criticism, but it took me a long time to be able to accept it better. I try to get to know the other developers first to get a feeling for whether or not they're used to accepting criticism. If the other person becomes defensive I try to be more careful, if they seem more accepting I will continue being critical. Usually I would be more o…

Learning to accept criticism isnt easy. I've found one way, at least for me, is to be self-critical. I'm usually harder on myself than my peers. Makes it a bit easier to accept when someone else points out a flaw.
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