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For individual mass market the big driver is loan margins, both for home mortgages and various short-term loans. But the improvement in payments was mostly driven by legislation (e.g. the Payment Services Directive from 2007 with most of implementation at 2012) without which banks were quite happy to offer payments as slow and expensive as they could as it was too profitable for the industry to voluntarily agree to d…
With 1.6% interest rates for mortgages... I don't know how dutch banks make money. They sell insurance and offer consumer investment accounts -- which are not permitted for us citizens!
Why is everyone a bank?
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Re: Why is everyone a bank?
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Europe in general would be my example for how banking should be done.
If France is part of Europe, then no f’ing way. It’s a nightmare: arbitrary limits on debit cards, large transfers have to be done in person at your specific branch. The security requirements are Byzantine. For example, to get a new pin code, they actually mail you paper, you can do it in a branch. International money transfers require permission (only obtained at your specific branch.) They charge a monthly fee to h…
Re: Why is everyone a bank?
#233It's easy (and fun) to complain about the bad (or just weird) product experiences that banks regularly churn out. Believe it or not, most banks are trying their best. But as other commenters have noted, banks aren't staffed by technologists, so their choices for how to solve these problems begin and end with buying one of the available off-the-shelf software products. Spoiler alert, these products generally are both…
I have to imagine that you get used a bunch in the backends of FinTech products, but any chance better IT starts to reach consumers? My inability to know exactly what's going on with my money on my own terms is endless frustrating. The aggregators help, but are still quite limited.
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> Another answer: because regular banks are awful to deal with. They don't have nice APIs to just move money around. They apply velocity limits at surprising times. They can terminate your account suddenly for opaque reasons. Do you think Google is going to do any better at this? They already have no customer support, close accounts without notice....etc... The article is right, this is about engagement.
The traditional banking system is about 150 years old by now. Increasingly, it seems to serve a smaller segment of society, regardless of its half-hearted attempts at innovation. I have a number of friends working in finance. Lovely people. Absolutely arrogant, though, when it comes to the question of whether their industry will face non-trivial disuption. Maybe Google and other current tech giants will not be the on…
So your friends are right, for now.
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Your examples seem like cases that can easily be handled by a checking account. > Fundamentally, I should not have to explain why I would desire immediate access to my own cash reserves at a moment's notice to excuse broken financial infrastructure. Yes, if you are investing in less-liquid assets to get a better RoI then you absolutely do. If you don't like the terms then you are free to keep your cash in your checki…
Just bought a brand new car this week from a dealership (US) and the seller refused to accept a check.
Re: Why is everyone a bank?
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Two examples: Auto purchase where there was an issue with the banking partner of the vehicle manufacturer. Another is a real estate transaction. Bailing friends out of jail is always cheap (~$500), but not everyone takes credit cards (no chance for the first two scenarios). Fundamentally, I should not have to explain why I would desire immediate access to my own cash reserves at a moment's notice to excuse broken fin…
People buy cars in Europe using debit cards, at least in the UK.
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Honestly, I wouldn't trust Google (or any other tech giant) to be my bank. My bank doesn't have a history of locking people's accounts when they post "the wrong" political opinions online. My bank doesn't have a plan to monetize access to my account, or to limit use of the account to only those activities of which the bank's army of woke employees approve. I think I'll stick with a real bank, thanks.
Banks have a habit of closing accounts of people involved in the sex industry and recreational drugs (even in places theses are legal)
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I'm pretty sure that whoever disrupts banking will do it the Uber way, by disregarding all the laws that they are required to follow and trying to claim not to be what they actually are, with the same eventual success this route has had for Uber.
Uber is succeeding? Its finances don't think so.
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I think Google can be awful and still fare better than most regular banks.
I work for a bank. As bad as we can be, there's always a recourse of some sort (not always useful, but sometimes). There's always a regulator (not always activist, but sometimes). There's always an alternative (not always equivalent, but sometimes). With Google, it's up to Google whether the answer is 'screw you' (unless you're spending tens of millions, it is).
Like you say, the banks ignore the regulators, shortcut the recourse and the alternatives, really, are all equally awful.