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Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Other way to read this: big corporations are slowing down on VR. The market has not taken off as rapidly as they expected so we will see more moves away from heavy investment in VR.

Carmack never struck me as the type to chase the money from fad tech to fad tech. On the contrary, he seems keen to chase his own interests, and by now I suspect he is financially secure enough to do so.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Progress in AI is due to data and computational power advances. I wonder what kind of advances are needed for AGI. 1. Biological brains are non-differentiable spiking networks much more complicated than backpropagated ANNs. 2. Ion channels may or may not be affected by quantum effects. 3. The search space is huge (but organisms aren't optimal and natural selection is probably local search) 4. If it took ~3.8b years t…

This reminds me of a interesting armchair moral dilemma: Assume we have the tech to replicate/simulate a biological brain. Now say we want to study the effects of extreme pain/torture etc on the brain. Instead of studying living animals or humans we'd just simulate a brain, and simulate sending it pain signals and see what happens.

But, if this is a 100% replicated brain, doesn't that mean its suffering is just as real as a real brain's suffering, and therefor just as cruel? And if not, what's the difference?

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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AGI is not an engineering problem but a research problem. John Carmack is good at putting stuff together but how good he is at coming up with novel concepts for an open research problem remains to be seen. Even the rocketry example that is hailed here as a success mostly wasn't. That doesn't make me happy, it would have been far nicer if Armadillo had succeeded, more competition in that space is better. But for all t…

AGI is not a research problem but an imagination problem. I can’t vouch for how good John Carmack is in imagination, but striving to put things together with a goal seems like a good place to start.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #159

Humans optimize for activating the opioid receptor. These receptors are distributed all over the brain and tied into all sorts of subtle neural networks. That's why opioid addicts don't do much when they're high. As far as the entire structure of the brain is concerned, an opioid addict's brain is done optimizing and the fitness function is pegged at 1. I think an AGI will end up being like an AI that plays the Sims…

So, opiate synthesis and delivery?

I imagine the AGI system of the future would not make humans happy via that method in that its decision would be counteracted by including physical health indicators in the fitness function.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #195

What a joke. Carmack is going to sit at home and solve what teams of scientists can't do in decades. I'm complaining less about Carmack wanting to spend his time doing this and more about the comments here acting like he is some 10000x research scientist.

I wouldn't be that... mean. But if it's anything like his aerospace pursuits, yeah, I wouldn't bet on any breakthroughs.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #217

Yann LeCun's [0] comment on the post: Welcome to the club, John. A word of warning though: There is no such thing as AGI. Reaching human-level AI is a good goal. But human intelligence is very, very specialized. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yann_LeCun?fbclid=IwAR2e9mzCqS...

LeCun is more accomplished and smarter than I will ever be, but his thoughts on the term 'AGI' just seem like dumb pedantry regarding word definitions to me.

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many historical figures went through the same thing? Who do we know for their contributions to field X, when 99% of their life was spent contributing to field Y?

Isaac Newton spent most of his life pursuing alchemy and obscure theological ideas, and found it a real nuisance whenever anyone pestered him about math or physics.

source?

Re: John Carmack: I’m going to work on artificial general intelligence

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not saying he's LeCun, I'm just saying he gets up to speed absurdly fast. So it's not unreasonable to suppose that by now, he's learned enough to start seriously contributing to this kind of problem. edit: to be clear, all I'm saying is he can catch up to the body of research already out there quicker than the average bear, and he's shown a real knack for designing solutions and being crazy productive. I'm not pr…

Don't be absurd. You're acting like he's Neo from The Matrix, capable of downloading kung-fu directly into his brain.

Carmack is also a good grappler.
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