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Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by ddingus »

spinningslate wrote: post #47
asar wrote: post #12

I think it's a little too early to come to a full conclusion here. Google is constantly testing layout changes in SERPs and it seems like OP ended up in a test. The thread is 4 weeks old and I haven't seen or read anything on these changes anywhere but on this thread. I still think Google's general direction is clear with more webmaster incentives for structured data, amp and also Google just straight up answering qu…

It's less the specifics and more the trend. Google's direction is, as stated elsewhere, to be seen as the source of information - not a route to it. As you note, they're incentivising structured content - which means they can appropriate it and present directly rather than providing a link to the originator. No doubt some will find it helpful (as with AMP). Some will find it unacceptable appropriation. I'm most defin…

"Everything is Search" --Google exec, whose name escapes me at the moment.

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by ddingus »

jacquesm wrote: post #39
asar wrote: post #12

I think it's a little too early to come to a full conclusion here. Google is constantly testing layout changes in SERPs and it seems like OP ended up in a test. The thread is 4 weeks old and I haven't seen or read anything on these changes anywhere but on this thread. I still think Google's general direction is clear with more webmaster incentives for structured data, amp and also Google just straight up answering qu…

It's out in the wild. It never should have passed the first level of internal discussion.

Hit me today. I hate it. I get URLs all the time for research, writing and my own database of info.

Honestly, I was willing to put up with BS so long as I actually got the data I was looking for. Now that I do not get it, and am forced into every result being turned into "I'm feeling lucky", I now have to abandon Google search.

This is a bigger deal than they want it to be.

Forced trust scenarios never go well. Abuse = profit = abuse.

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by kd3 »

ben509 wrote: post #205
kd3 wrote: post #139

Anyone know of a good replacement for Google recaptcha?

This thread digs into the notion that you probably don't need a solution as comprehensive as reCaptcha: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20158386 And the article suggests some alternatives towards the end.

Thanks!

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by kaikai »

dessant wrote: post #219
pmoriarty wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Do we have any recourse against this monopoly, other than voicing our concerns repeatedly while they ignore us?" There are a lot of Google employees (and potential Google employees) on HN. So if "we" includes them, then yes, "we" could do a lot... like not work for Google.

They could do something better than resigning: voice their concerns both internally and in public. I have yet to see a HN comment posted by a current Google employee that has criticized Google's data harvesting practices or monopolistic behavior.

They would be foolish to publicly criticize their employer. Just because someone doesn’t post criticism publicly doesn’t mean they aren’t pushing internally. In the end though, the best way to hurt them is to walk away.

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by jjohansson »

MayeulC wrote: post #209
jjohansson wrote: post #144

Google just last week announced a drop in profit, so expect more of these types of “optimizations” over the coming months. Over the past 6 months they’ve already increased the font size of SERPs, made their ads look even more similar to organic results, and started showing multiple results from the same site in the top 5 results for highly competitive terms. All of these “optimizations” are designed to encourage more…

But isn't Google going to realize that there isn't such a thing as infinite growth? I get that they got used to tremendous growth in the early days. But it has to stop at some point. Same is true for the economy (we "fix" that with inflation). And they're probably going to be split up before they reach the theoritical maximum. Couldn't they just be nice neighbors and not squeeze the last drop of milk out of us. I'd w…

Google is getting hammered by Amazon for product-centric searches, while Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn are eating into their ad share. Bing is also surprisingly resilient, taking big steps with their search targeting capabilities.

There is significant resentment towards Google in the SEM community (and by people overall).

Subjectively, their results have gotten significantly worse over the past 1.5 years.

Search is ripe for disruption.

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by hcarvalhoalves »

cdata wrote: post #183
malvosenior wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google very, very rarely promotes the open way first, and when they do it's step 1 in embrace, extend, extinguish. They have no good intentions. I don't think they ever did, they just had "do no evil" branding until the evil got too obvious to ignore.

Speaking as an employee at Google (but not for Google; opinions are all my own), I will offer you this anecdote: I have met a lot of people in my career who are motivated to do work for the public good in order for the whole world to benefit (e.g., standards, open source, public speaking/education etc.) and not just one company. I met the vast majority of those people after I joined Google, and many of the others had…

It’s a huge corporation, and huge corporations are morally challenged.

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by dessant »

kaikai wrote: post #234
dessant wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could do something better than resigning: voice their concerns both internally and in public. I have yet to see a HN comment posted by a current Google employee that has criticized Google's data harvesting practices or monopolistic behavior.

They would be foolish to publicly criticize their employer. Just because someone doesn’t post criticism publicly doesn’t mean they aren’t pushing internally. In the end though, the best way to hurt them is to walk away.

Personal sacrifice is often required for things to change. Any developer who publicly speaks up about these issues may be hurting their employment prospects, not just Google employees.

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by RenRav »

buboard wrote: post #149
gniv wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? Sometimes the title of a page is the url (or they use the url when the title is missing?). I see titles mostly.

This is the style of results i m seeing in mobile: https://i.imgur.com/eDZjQlW.png I guess it s different for everyone

I can't remember the last time mobile searches displayed the URL, it has looked like this for me: https://i.imgur.com/mPQk9wf.png

Re: Google are removing URLs entirely from search results?

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Post by mirimir »

amoron wrote: post #148
mirimir wrote: post #120

I just checked Google search with Chrome and Firefox in Debian, and both still show URLs for actual search results. But not for ads. So I wonder if Google plans to drop URLs from actual search results. And if they do, whether using Startpage, or DDG with the Google option, would still show them.

The test groups are separated on account level. I get old Google whenever I log out.

Thanks.

I have no Google accounts.

That seems odd. You'd think that having an account would provide better service.

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