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Post by viridian »

chrisseaton wrote: post #206
viridian wrote: post #173

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[spoilers] 999 relies on the two screens for the actual purposes of constructing the narrative(s), as well as for the big reveal at the end. The story is unfortunately a layer shallower on the PC port of the game (not to mention that you have to choose between one of two options for dialogue, neither of which is all inclusive).

> 999 relies on the two screens for the actual purposes of constructing the narrative(s), as well as for the big reveal at the end What does it do with two screens that couldn’t be done with one screen divided into two halves?

The screen being arbitrarily divided into two halves would give away a huge plot element pretty quickly, if you are paying attention, as well as some smaller stuff. You aren't actually controlling Junpei, as you are led to believe for the entire game, at least, not really. You are actually controlling a girl in the past named Akane, who is seeing the world through Junpei's eyes. The trick is that Akane's observations are actually happening on one screen, while what Junpei experiences happen on the other. You would be pretty crazy to see the observations made as coming from anyone but Junpei, given the context, except the whole screen thing, even though there are weird little issues of phrasing that don't quite make sense, but if the game was arbitrarily played on two screens, it'd give that bit away.

There's also the part near the end where you play as Akane directly, and you play with the DS turned upside down in your hands, but that's more minor versus the fact that the entire game actually takes place on a meta level.

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Post by anonymfus »

asenna wrote: post #228
zx2c4 wrote: post #182

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> have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? P Remember the Thinkpad W701ds? With its retractable second screen, this was a thing of beauty: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_a... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/msJwcKy4PQQ/maxresdefault.jpg https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images1000x1000/1276679060... https://live.staticflickr.c…

Genuinely curious, why did these not work? Extremely poor battery life / portability?

Probably they were too expensive for people who buy laptops for work and too ugly for people who buy laptops for showcase.

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Post by jdnenej »

chrisseaton wrote: post #206
viridian wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[spoilers] 999 relies on the two screens for the actual purposes of constructing the narrative(s), as well as for the big reveal at the end. The story is unfortunately a layer shallower on the PC port of the game (not to mention that you have to choose between one of two options for dialogue, neither of which is all inclusive).

> 999 relies on the two screens for the actual purposes of constructing the narrative(s), as well as for the big reveal at the end What does it do with two screens that couldn’t be done with one screen divided into two halves?

Fit in your pocket

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Post by mhermher »

Aardappel wrote: post #149
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #89

I'm liking the direction laptop makers are taking by differentiating at hardware level especially with displays, Asus has multiple dual display laptops and now Microsoft's surface lineup. With WindowsX partnership, this is going to kick off a slew of multi-display computing devices. But as a non-windows user, I'm wondering what these hardware specific Windows changes are going to do to the Linux ecosystem. I'm sure,…

Want to "innovate" in laptop screens? How about giving us our 4:3 laptop screens back? Or (drool) 5:4 ? Most content (web pages, documents, code) is longer than it is wide, so any more square ratio is going to be an improvement over these silly "movie" ratio 16:9 screens. MS's 3:2 ratio screens are an improvement, but.. we can do more! Hell, I'd LOVE a 1:1 screen on a laptop! Imagine a 15" diagonal 1:1 screen, which…

The screens get wobbly at that point. I think 3:2 is pretty good.

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Post by scarface74 »

jotm wrote: post #226
ProfessorLayton wrote: post #213

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Not sure I agree with the first two, as those products were so revolutionary, it's hard to ding them for some features they missed (Especially since they eventually got many of those features via software updates). Not saying they were perfect by any means, but it was a damn fine first attempt. First gen Watch was trash and I completely regret that purchase, furthermore, I can't believe Apple even released it in that…

Windows Mobile phones had everything bar capacitive screens years before the iPhone, and tablets were a thing for years, as well. So please, stop with the "revolutionary" nonsense.

Everything about Windows Phones (CE Based) were horrible, including the browser and the interface. Tablets before the iPad were bulky and the interface wasn’t exactly touch friendly.

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Post by driverdan »

llampx wrote: post #87
JadeNB wrote: post #50

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> Microsoft is not like Apple. They don't make perfect products at the beginning For example, perfect butterfly keyboards.

The amount of bellyaching about the MacBook keyboard is the exception that proves the rule.

The first version of nearly every Apple product has had major issues. With Apple you're always better off waiting for v2.

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Post by mattkevan »

mthoms wrote: post #223
devicetray0 wrote: post #220

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I worked in tech consulting, and my colleague actually had a very thin ~23" (IIRC) portable LCD screen he somehow carried with him on planes. It had a foldable kickstand so he could set up a dual-screen on any hotseat desk in seconds. It was brilliant, and I briefly considered the same, but my backpack was already heavy enough. I've heard of folks doing this with the MBP + a iPad Pro, but idk how well that works.

It works very, very well with the "duet" app. Duet supports Windows/Mac along with any recent iPad (or even iPhone). The upcoming version of MacOS supports this natively but it's not clear to me yet how it will compare with Duet.

It’s startlingly good, even wirelessly. I spend a lot of time working between different offices, and being able to set the iPad up as a secondary display is very handy.

The iPad display also gets its own touchbar instance, and it makes way more sense as a thin touch control strip at the bottom of the screen than it does as a function key replacement.

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Post by arthurcolle »

jm4 wrote: post #224
augustl wrote: post #141

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I've never been more happy with a desktop environment than when I used i3. The sloppy window management in macOS combined with the scarce selection of laptops (of which none are really good in my opinion) has led me to try win10 as my development environment. i3-like on Windows would have been great!

I use Amethyst (like xmonad), spaces and set the dock to auto hide. Keyboard shortcuts for switching layouts and moving windows. Three finger swipe to the left or right to switch spaces or ctrl 1-4. I’m pretty happy with this setup. https://github.com/ianyh/Amethyst

I’ve used Amethyst twice before giving up and just going back to manually doing all my adjustments. I found it extremely wonky. For example, even after a user specifies their preferences, it will still auto snap after you make your own custom adjustments. Custom adjustments should always override the default snap-to-preset rules.

Maybe you found a way around this!

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Post by hug »

rbanffy wrote: post #230
thedaemon wrote: post #139

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It could have done the same with 1 larger screen. But the DS is a foldable device. It's not a gimmick, it's part of the operation of the device. I use dual screens at work, because they are smaller lower resolution screens. At home I have 1 huge high resolution screen. Not having a physical separation is amazing.

Angular size is key. When I'm on my desk I have multiple screens that cover about twice as much as my laptop when I'm working away from my desk. Since the screen is closer, I can increase it's density and then I have almost as much real estate as on my desk. Not sold on this reasoning.

Attaching a second monitor doesn't suddenly make your main display useless.

One of the things I completely fail to understand is why most people I work with close their laptop displays when docked to secondary monitors.

I have a 34" 3440x1440 ultrawide monitor at home on my desk, and I use that plus my Macbook's display.

At work, I use 24x 24" 1440p monitors, and I use thoes plus my Surface Pro's 12" display.

When I'm out and about, on my Macbook or on my Surface, I definitely miss the extended displays. A lot.

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