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Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

I don't have an HEDT but an outdated Haswell i5 laptop (not an Ultra Low Voltage model at least, so it's quite fast). Last year I spotted a bug in Firefox and I though it was time to put a line in the contribution section in my resume. The contribution experience was a nightmare because a full build of Firefox took 3 hrs and running the entire testing framework took 4 hrs, though it turned out that I needed to run on…

3 HOURS? Does that say more about your workstation or the project?

I've recently built php + most of the bundled extensions, in a VM (on a 2018 Mac mini) and it's only a couple of minutes at most to build.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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They replaced the headphone jack with a barometric vent which other phone manufacturers just put in a different location. Apple didn't have to get rid of the port. They decided to get rid of the port because they knew that their users would buy the phone anyway and then have more of a reason to buy AirPods. There is plenty of space in that corner though. Some guy wanted to see if he could add the headphone jack back…

That is nonsense. He butchered that phone and definitely, 100% ruined the waterproofing function of the phone. Additionally, I'm curious which manufacturers you're speaking of because, the last time this type of comment came around, there was a distinct response of "most other phones don't include a barometric vent".

All waterproof phones with barometers would include similar technology. Phones like the Galaxy S7 which was also waterproof and which also had a headphone jack. The video is an individual messing around with a dremel and soldering gun. Of course it's not waterproof at that point, that was never his goal. It's ludicrous to believe that Apple had to remove the headphone jack when other companies showed it can be done just fine without and others have shown just how much space is still available in the phone. Your assertion that it had to be done isn't supported by evidence.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

#233

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

Not everyone does web development and can work with just an editor on their dev machine...

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Aside from the additional taxation and regulations in NZ, it does have some pretty unavoidable issues which drive up the prices of consumer goods. It’s a very small market, and very far away. Getting things there is just going to cost more anyway, and the market isn’t big enough to invite significant competition, so there’s usually a large (or at least larger than a lot of other places) markup on imported goods.

Is it really far from China compared to US/Europe?

My friend living in NZ has a fantastic quote about the distance:

> NZ is a fantastic place. It takes 24 hours to get anywhere around the world.

Yep, it's that far.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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I use an 8-core iMac Pro with 64GB RAM; it’s wonderful. When I bought it I was doing some embedded device work involving a Windows VM, as well as heavy web dev on a frontend JS app and a backend app with tons of Chrome tabs open. All these things crave memory, and my 16GB MacBook Pro was swapping itself to death. This was pre-32GB MacBook Pros, so I bit the bullet and couldn’t be happier with the setup. It’s dead sil…

I got a Lenovo laptop with roughly the same specs, though.

Your Lenovo laptop has an 8 core 3.2GHz Xeon with 4.2GHz Turbo Boost, 19MB Cache, 64GB DDR4, silent cooling even under heavy load (which it can sustain), and an SSD that does 1700MB/s with full disk encryption?

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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A great machine to be sure for high end content creation but Apple is not chasing the deep learning dev market because of the lack of CUDA. That market is better served by Linux boxes with appropriate GPUs for TensorFlow, PyTorch, etc. support.

Exactly, and to me it’s a deal breaker. Anyone privy on what hold Apple back on supporting Nvidia? The only info I read was due to some earlier bad blood, but I wonder why hurt your users just because of some old scuffles...

Lawyers.

They probably both each want too much money.

Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Is it really far from China compared to US/Europe?

It’s not just far, it’s far away from everything, including all the major trade routes. In Europe and Asia, a lot more goods are produced close by, and if you ship a product to any country in Europe or Asia, there’s a lot more people to buy it, and a lot more markets close by.

And there are lots of regulations too. For example I sold an oil burner light on eBay to someone in NZ (didn't actually know as there was a UK address that forwarded the package) and I included some oils for free...

Big mistake. Package was returned and I had to remove them.

My only point being it's a poor port in part because of its delicate ecosystem, which necessitates very strict regulations.

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