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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by skywhopper »

Ambroos wrote: post #208
Shivetya wrote: post #199

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Owner of a Tesla model 3. Summon is the canary in the coal mine. As in, unless it shows signs of life then the fairy tale of self driving cars is just that, a fairy tale. If they cannot get a safe an accurate summon to work why should I ever believe my car will ever drive on its own. Do I believe it will come, not for years. My car cannot even identify a speed limit sign, maybe version 10 will help on that. I doubt i…

Well, I would hope the engineers working on Netflix and Caraoke aren't the ones who are working on self-driving features. They seem like different enough things that they could be worked on simultaneously. Full self-driving is a long time away anyway, and while we wait for that, features like this help cope with not having full self-driving and differentiating the car in the market.

But they are spending money and time on the engineers who are adding those features to the car, and on testing and integrating those with the rest of the software. Is that the best way to be spending their money?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

untog wrote: post #167
smileysteve wrote: post #135

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Legally, they kind of do.

Realistically, if you drive the wrong way down a one lane road in a parking lot there's a good chance you're going to get stuck because someone else will be driving the right way. It's not... good?

It probably gets legal when a collision happens.

Also, when one gets a person who drives the wrong way, maybe one has a good chance to make them reverse. Good luck with a car without a driver.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by Lorenzo45 »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

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Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

The issues are relatively minor in the grand scheme of the user experience of the car. They're also easily dismissed because of the regular updates that Tesla puts out like this one (addressed complaints like Bluetooth and Spotify). People would be more frustrated with software issues from another car maker because it would mean waiting longer for a fix and going in to a dealership to get the update.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rainyMammoth »

damon_c wrote: post #230
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

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Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

It's not that complicated. Drive one and you will see that they are pretty different from any other car in a number of ways.

Why would you assume that if I drive one I would automatically like it?

I drove one for a couple days. It is a nice experience but a very early product that is far from perfect and the finish was what I would have expected for a cheap Toyota.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by rainyMammoth »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #229
rainyMammoth wrote: post #225

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Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

I’m not a Tesla owner but it does seem to me that buying in to the company that has single handedly changed the landscape of electric vehicles is a pretty exciting notion. I’d be happier to have a vehicle built on seemingly better principles and support the company even if they’re not perfect. But then I use Linux even though it’s difficult at times because what I am using is more important than any specific flaws it…

It occurs to me that I would equate Mac to Tesla and Linux to a car in which you get full access to the engine and are able to change any piece you want.

Tesla is the opposite of Linux philosophy.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by leesec »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #225
leesec wrote: post #214

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Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Here is what I don't understand: you paid a small fortune for your car and if this was any other car from any other manufacturer you would react like your parent comment. But because it is a Tesla you are dismissing all the issues and sell it as the best car ever. This wouldn't fly with any other car. If you spent 50k$ on a Audi with poor quality you would probably complain about it. It is a pattern I see with nearly…

Yeah so I don't care about the blutooth because my car DRIVES ITSELF a big percent of the time. it's fundamentally changed how I view driving. Stop and Go traffic no longer makes me mad. Road trips no longer exhaust me.

There's probably some issues but none that I care about. It feels like driving the future. It's an absolute joy to drive.

No gas stations is pretty nice too.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by freeflight »

yalogin wrote: post #205

I was really excited for a minute there hoping that they finally fixed the "autoplay media on the phone on opening the door" bug that plagued the car since its launch. But no such luck.

That sounds like a bug that could potentially be pretty embarrassing.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by londons_explore »

skywhopper wrote: post #231
Ambroos wrote: post #208

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Well, I would hope the engineers working on Netflix and Caraoke aren't the ones who are working on self-driving features. They seem like different enough things that they could be worked on simultaneously. Full self-driving is a long time away anyway, and while we wait for that, features like this help cope with not having full self-driving and differentiating the car in the market.

But they are spending money and time on the engineers who are adding those features to the car, and on testing and integrating those with the rest of the software. Is that the best way to be spending their money?

Integrating that game was probably 'free', because I bet the game developer paid to have Tesla distribute their game as advertising. That's why you only get the first level.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by jellicle »

Limb wrote: post #9
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #2

"Those using Smart Summon must remain responsible for the car and monitor it and its surroundings at all times. " Does this come with an "oh god, stop!" button of some sort?

I wonder what happens if your phone freezes and you can't push the "oh god, stop!" button? Would you still be at fault?

Tesla would undoubtedly want you to be. Who has more money to hire lawyers, you or Tesla?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by londons_explore »

chrisstanchak wrote: post #139
lazyjones wrote: post #118

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Imagine how much bandwidth they'd save if Superchargers with WiFi offered the latest software version cached locally at full WiFi speed to the cars...

CDN costs must be negligible compared to the cost of managing that.

Cloudflare is 100% free for this kind of thing.

No need for a company to ever consider distribution costs again.

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