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Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
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Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#232To all those ITT complaining about bots... check out the fetish/kink/niche dating sites. Granted there's still a problem with thirsty dudes if you're female but at least no bots.
If you're looking for random sex, many swinger clubs also allow single men (single females are almost universally welcome), either always or at special events. If you're in a relationship and your s/o is interested, I can also recommend visiting swinger clubs for a change.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#233Back when I was single, I was on a dozen dating sites. It was frustrating as heck to keep getting led on by fake profiles. eHarmony is the worst: they actually sold my email address to spammers. How do I know this? I have my own domain, and use a unique (hard to guess) email address for each site I have to give an email address to. So it was trivial to nail eHarmony as the culprit. Someone has already linked to the O…
They may not have sold it — they may have just had their database hacked. I used to use unique email address per site too, and at least one was clearly hacked rather than sold.
I worked at a company who's bulk mailer company got hacked and all our customer's emails spammed. For a while we could refer irate customers with tagged email addresses to the mailer companies blog post about the breach (although they cleverly never admitted it, just wrote they were investigating it) until a few months later the blog was upgraded to a new system conveniently wiping out the blog post.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#234There is only one universal law that applies to online dating, and that is: women don't need it as much as men. For women, online dating just doesn't make sense. Even on Tinder, where the ratio is kinda okay, women are bombarded with messages and likes. To the point that they can't even respond to everyone even if they wanted to. This means men are left with unresponsive women and just start to send cheaper pick up l…
I know a few women that use Tinder: they are alone, late thirties and never got anything serious out of Tinder, but they use it to reassure their attractiveness by the continuous flow of likes they get. It is a morale booster, nothing more.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'd say it's about 80% male. It's more like most women will go for 20% of the men. If you're part of the 80% you'll feel alone. As an experiment just make a fake profile with some model's picture to discover how many women are around.
Create a fake profile to prove these are not all fake profiles? In any case, any site where the profile focuses primarily on your photo is probably going to see this going both ways: men going for the hottest women and women going for the hottest men. If you focus more on people's interests, I'd expect you're going to see a very different pattern.
The only major remaining website that tries to match people based on interests is OKCupid. And even it is changing every few months. Unfortunately, the success of Tinder and move to mobile phones first ruined most of the dating websites, which try to emulate its success. Because people mostly use phone nowadays for dating websites, long profiles are mostly gone, sending long letters is gone, many conversations are single sentence now. Also, instead of matching based on shared interests/values, most of the matching is based on "swipe left/right on photo".
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#236I've tried a number of dating websites in the past year, and all of them are like this. First and foremost: No matter how hard they try to hide it, the male/female balance on all straight dating sites is completely off. I'd say it's about 80% male. So most of them fill with fake accounts to get the balance backs. The matching algorithms don't really exist, they are extremely primitive and usually optimised for engage…
* I don't think this can be 'disrupted' either * Tinder disrupted the online dating scene by introducing the feature that you can only write someone after you've liked their profile, AND they've liked yours. That makes a huge difference, and solves the spam problem.
It also made it that most guys never get noticed, because women have thousands of likes to go through.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#237I've tried a number of dating websites in the past year, and all of them are like this. First and foremost: No matter how hard they try to hide it, the male/female balance on all straight dating sites is completely off. I'd say it's about 80% male. So most of them fill with fake accounts to get the balance backs. The matching algorithms don't really exist, they are extremely primitive and usually optimised for engage…
It might also be an age thing, younger women have no problem meeting people IRL. When I used a couple of these sites, including Match, when I was in my late 40's and I had no problem setting up multiple coffee dates. Nothing came of it and I met my wife at the running club.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#238I've tried a number of dating websites in the past year, and all of them are like this. First and foremost: No matter how hard they try to hide it, the male/female balance on all straight dating sites is completely off. I'd say it's about 80% male. So most of them fill with fake accounts to get the balance backs. The matching algorithms don't really exist, they are extremely primitive and usually optimised for engage…
OKCupid doesn't have fake profiles, right?
OKCupid has many fake profiles. Some are real people, just using fake pictures. Some are obvious fakes with copy-paste description that you'd see on hundreds of profiles and professional photoshoot photos that have hundreds of matches with google image search. There is a more advanced fake profile method though. It involves professional scammers writing people lengthy, personalized messages for days or even weeks, and then luring them into payment, either through some different "russian brides" website, or telling some sob story about missing money for rent and asking for help.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#239I've tried a number of dating websites in the past year, and all of them are like this. First and foremost: No matter how hard they try to hide it, the male/female balance on all straight dating sites is completely off. I'd say it's about 80% male. So most of them fill with fake accounts to get the balance backs. The matching algorithms don't really exist, they are extremely primitive and usually optimised for engage…
For-profit dating sites also share a common problem: they need to extract revenue out of you, but the more successful they are at being dating sites, the sooner they lose you as a customer.
All the problems we discuss are pretty much related to this point: They probably have good matching algorithms, but they only showed you actual good matches you'd be gone from the site (taking the other person with you). So they have an incentive to show you 99% noise and 1% signal, and some go to the length of more or less explicitly paywalling the good 1%.
Re: Match.com Used Fake Ads to Swindle Users, F.T.C. Says
#240The FTC needs to come down hard on this. Extremely hard. This isn't just a trick, it's outright fraud. They're playing with people's emotions and not just giving them nothing - they're abusing people's most basic need of feeling loved. Think about how vulnerable people become when they're searching for love. And then this corporate giant comes in with an army of psychologists, A/B tests, and analysts to figure out ho…
I generally agree with what you're saying. However, if you've ever used any of these sites with a profile in a sparsely populated rural zip code, it's a pretty grim situation and I can see how fake profiles could arguably make people feel better than having absolutely nothing to even swipe on. If the fake profiles don't go beyond just filler status, i.e. they don't reply to messages and lead people on, it doesn't str…
That seems like an absolutely awful justification for fraud.