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Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by OJFord »

xnyan wrote: post #66
oplav wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use any other Apple products? I feel the same way about paying a premium for a phone I don't like, but iMessage is what is keeping me from switching (back) to Android. My personal computer is a 2014 MacBook. My work computer is a MacBook. Being able to message freely from my laptop to others on iMessage is a really nice feature.

With android you also can do this on MacOS, as well as Linux and Windows.

And then in a few months' time you can do it in a new app with a slightly different UI!

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by glandium »

RJIb8RBYxzAMX9u wrote: post #62
dijit wrote: post #40

Every year I wait on bated breath at the release of a similarly compact phone to the SE. I even recently bought a new one right before they removed them from the store, so I have 2 year apple care+ for it to tide me over. Ordinarily I would vote with my wallet, but there are no compact Android phones either. Ironically I still own a Oneplus One which is quite old by todays standards; and I distinctly remember it bein…

> (also, I wonder how women get on, since generally they have smaller hands than men.) PopSockets. In my neck of the woods they are almost as common as phone cases. Some men also use them.

Also, phone rings.

https://www.google.com/search?q=phone+ring&tbm=isch

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by rtpg »

> It is unlikely that any of my friends and family members are going to move to Android, where there is a wide variety of hardware form factors to choose from. The iOS lockin is very powerful.

The worst thing is that despite this there are basically no high-end small phones in Android either! Once you look at phones smaller than like 5 inches you get into very weird or super low-end phones that are basically unusable.

Hell, even the iphone 8 and X is smaller than most androids

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by garmaine »

robocat wrote: post #213
RandomBacon wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it possible to have a softphone app on the iPod Touch? You would just need a wireless hotspot that the iPod would always be connected to, to use it as a phone (or maybe people can start bucking the trend of always being connected). It's the same size as the SE, except a hair thinner, and has a 3.5mm headphone jack! spec comparison: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Apple-iPhone-SE,Ap...

Get an Apple watch with cellular, and tether an iPod touch to it?

Apple watch in cellular mode dies after a few hours.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by LaGrange »

labster wrote: post #86

My work bought me an "upgrade" to the XR, as my SE is starting to show some battery issues. But after a day of playing with the XR, I put it back in the box to send back to Apple. Compared to the SE, the XR is 50% heavier -- even without a case. It doesn't have a good edge to hold onto being so thin, so it makes you want to hold on by the front. But every corner of the front of the device is a UI element that you can…

> My work bought me an "upgrade" to the XR, as my SE is starting to show some battery issues.

I got my 5S's battery replaced super cheap literally downstairs from my apartment. I suspect I might end up doing that again, though a potential lack of security upgrades might make me itchy.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by tfha »

perl4ever wrote: post #228
jeffkeen wrote: post #167

Seriously. This giant phone trend is nonsense. Nonsense! I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE, despite being mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". I had a 6S and promptly ditched it for an SE after feeling like the thing was designed to slip out of my enormous hands. That whole "reachability" feature they added when they started with this phablet obsession was basic…

"I'm a 6'5" man with large hands who still swears by an SE" It appears that the SE is 4 inches and the 6S is 4.7. I have a Pixel 3 non-XL and it is 5.5 which seems fine to me. But the Pixel 3 XL at 6.2 was going too far. Anyway, a real Apple SE[1] has a screen which is a little over 8 inches... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_SE

I have a pixel, it's 5 inches and it feels absolutely enormous compared to the SE. I don't like it at all and yet it's classified as "small" today.

Not a fan at all, it's just too big for me. I'm 6'1"

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Izkata »

labster wrote: post #86

My work bought me an "upgrade" to the XR, as my SE is starting to show some battery issues. But after a day of playing with the XR, I put it back in the box to send back to Apple. Compared to the SE, the XR is 50% heavier -- even without a case. It doesn't have a good edge to hold onto being so thin, so it makes you want to hold on by the front. But every corner of the front of the device is a UI element that you can…

> I'll probably just pull my iPhone 1 out of storage -- it still works

The phone may still be functional, and the iPhone may be smarter, but I recently pulled out a flip phone from that era and it couldn't connect to any nearby cell towers. It was too out-of-date.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by yroc92 »

jeffkeen wrote: post #195
mumblemumble wrote: post #182

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> mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". Interesting. I don't often get mocked for having an SE, but I do often have people asking what model my phone is and where they can get one. My current hope is that we might see something like the SE come back now that Jony Ive's had at least a glancing blow from the boot. Maybe now Apple's at least a little bit more able to resist the constant dr…

Yeah, hopefully! Nobody is asking for paper thin phones, and this needless obsession with THIN is we have to thank for gems such as: - the phone no longer sitting flat - the headphone port being removed - the phone being impossible to get a good grip on without a bulky case - "nearly one day of battery" life being the bar for "what good battery life is" Who trades a couple of millimeters of thickness in exchange for…

It is a common misconception that Apple is obsessed with thinness when it comes to iPhones. Since the iPhone 6, each iteration has been thicker:

http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/apple-iphone-product-...

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by microcolonel »

jeffkeen wrote: post #195
mumblemumble wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> mocked by friends and strangers whenever I pull out my "tiny phone". Interesting. I don't often get mocked for having an SE, but I do often have people asking what model my phone is and where they can get one. My current hope is that we might see something like the SE come back now that Jony Ive's had at least a glancing blow from the boot. Maybe now Apple's at least a little bit more able to resist the constant dr…

Yeah, hopefully! Nobody is asking for paper thin phones, and this needless obsession with THIN is we have to thank for gems such as: - the phone no longer sitting flat - the headphone port being removed - the phone being impossible to get a good grip on without a bulky case - "nearly one day of battery" life being the bar for "what good battery life is" Who trades a couple of millimeters of thickness in exchange for…

Basically why I bought a Moto G⁷ Power: it's about the same size as all the other phones these days, and it actually has two to three days of battery life. It's about the thickness of an iPhone 5, which was fine.

I personally think the iPhone 4S's display was a good size and resolution, and the form factor is good for human hands. If they could close in the bezels a bit, cut off a tiny bit of chin and forehead, and make the shell like the iPhone 5C... and make it run Android... I'd probably be game.

They could probably procure a really nice display in terms of colour, switching speed, sustained brightness, and black levels, maybe even increase the refresh rate to 120Hz for the interaction latency benefit. At 960x640, the quality of each of those pixels could be spectacular, and it'd further help with the end-to-end latency.

For the last couple of years I didn't ever bring a smartphone with me, just my trusty Nokia 106, which itself gets about a month of standby time per charge. I still carry the 106 because I'm still not used to having to charge a device so often.

Re: Bring Back the SE

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Post by Izkata »

dijit wrote: post #71
bangonkeyboard wrote: post #63

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> (also, I wonder how women get on, since generally they have smaller hands than men.) The women around me adopted larger phones earlier, because they had purses to carry them in.

Maybe, but I have a mix, my partner has a large phone and carries a backpack(!?) with her everywhere, but her closest friend has an iPhone 5 (which she doesn't update the OS on because "it will get slower"). So in my circles it's already 50/50. But I do see iPhone 5's and SE's amongst my circles more commonly than I should given the age of the phone. I'm not 100% on why, though I often ask. And it's incredibly rare t…

> my partner has a large phone and carries a backpack(!?) with her everywhere

Bringing the SCR-300 back in style?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCR-300

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