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Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by benja810 »

nasalgoat wrote: post #132

This has been live in Canada for some time in a "beta" incarnation, and from a purely product standpoint it is terrible. The UI is just bad. You cannot browse profiles, you must say "yes" or "no" and the decision is final. If you scroll down to read a profile more, when you pass, it leaves you in the same scroll spot in the next profile. This is User Interface 101 level stuff. The list of problems goes on from there.…

>Everything about it says "throwaway add-on" that they haven't spent any real time on optimizing.

Maybe this is a little unfair considering it was only a beta. Isn't a cornerstone of agile to get an MVP in front of users and iterate on user feedback? It doesn't seem right to judge any software based on a beta experience alone.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by nasalgoat »

haunter wrote: post #216
nasalgoat wrote: post #132

This has been live in Canada for some time in a "beta" incarnation, and from a purely product standpoint it is terrible. The UI is just bad. You cannot browse profiles, you must say "yes" or "no" and the decision is final. If you scroll down to read a profile more, when you pass, it leaves you in the same scroll spot in the next profile. This is User Interface 101 level stuff. The list of problems goes on from there.…

>The UI is just bad. You cannot browse profiles, you must say "yes" or "no" and the decision is final. So Tinder?

Yes, but on Tinder the profiles will re-appear later when you go back to swipe again. Other apps allow general browsing and better photo viewing too.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by jayd16 »

TallGuyShort wrote: post #19

"Secret Crush Lists" Yeah that doesn't sound like something that'll end up on Pastebin.

Honestly, if my Tinder swipes went public it wouldn't be an issue in the slightest. Its not a heart lock bound journal. Its just a list of people you'd have coffee with.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by nasalgoat »

benja810 wrote: post #231
nasalgoat wrote: post #132

This has been live in Canada for some time in a "beta" incarnation, and from a purely product standpoint it is terrible. The UI is just bad. You cannot browse profiles, you must say "yes" or "no" and the decision is final. If you scroll down to read a profile more, when you pass, it leaves you in the same scroll spot in the next profile. This is User Interface 101 level stuff. The list of problems goes on from there.…

>Everything about it says "throwaway add-on" that they haven't spent any real time on optimizing. Maybe this is a little unfair considering it was only a beta. Isn't a cornerstone of agile to get an MVP in front of users and iterate on user feedback? It doesn't seem right to judge any software based on a beta experience alone.

Sure, but even as a first pass I'd hoped that the devs would have used the other dating apps and tried to make the experience better based on that.

I don't think anyone even looked based on what I see. It's clearly inferior to Tinder, Bumble and OKCupid's mobile apps just on basic usability.

If you're going to enter a space, shouldn't you try to do better than the market leaders?

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by LyndsySimon »

paggle wrote: post #225
LyndsySimon wrote: post #220

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> they protest their own company when they feel it is not having properly You're right, but I don't understand that perspective. If my company is doing something that I think is morally wrong, I'm going to be finding employment elsewhere and telling them why. I might even speak out about it... after I leave. If we're doing something that I think it's great but doesn't justify my quitting, then I'm going to be speakin…

I think the calculus for most people is: This job is paying me a lot and I don't want to leave it, and I do think that this company can be a net force for good in this world (easier to believe at Google than at Facebook). But I don't want it to do bad things, and if I damage the brand publicly, the company will still survive, but will think twice about doing something like this in the future since they won't be able…

I agree that their intentions are good. I guess what I'm really saying is that I can't relate to them. I understand it intellectually, I just can't quite see things from that perspective.

> I do think that this company can be a net force for good in this world (easier to believe at Google than at Facebook). But I don't want it to do bad things, and if I damage the brand publicly, the company will still survive, but will think twice about doing something like this in the future since they won't be able to just contain it internally.

That's the thing, at least for me - if you believe the company is not currently being a net force for good in the world, then I'd be contributing to something that is a net force for evil. Even if I believed that could be changed in the future, I couldn't do that. It's the difference between utilitarianism and deontology.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #212
asdfman123 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

> If you have one persona, that means that you need to optimize that persona for your career and ironically it feels more stiflingly conformist. I understand where you're coming from, but this statement isn't necessarily a truism. You can wear who you are on your sleeve and even be quite extreme, if you're a reasonable person who can build and maintain professional relationships. I do almost everything online under m…

You describe yourself as extreme, but then say people are evenly split between those who disagree and agree with your stances. So while your position may feel extreme, in consequence it is the definition of moderate.

And obviously you are coming from a specific background and applying for types of jobs where a your contribution is valuable enough to the company that they are willing to overlook potential political issues.

If you were not as skilled, or applying for government, non-profit, banking jobs, or jobs in Red States your experience might have been completely different.

So try to recognize your coming from a privileged position. I know my organization checks Twitter accounts when they get resumes, and they will throw away the ones that use foul language immediately. This is bizarre and backward to be sure, and I'm fighting to change that but its still goes on currently.

Edit: After googling you, you are awesome, fountain pens are awesome, and smart people everywhere should want to hire you.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by [deleted] »

nikolay wrote: post #189

All dating apps target millennials... because they are developed by millennials. When will SV get for once that they don't get their demographic as they have nothing in common with people 40+. For example, except Microsoft, no other SV company gets families. I was surprised by the idiotic family support Google offers in their ecosystem and especially Google One. Same with Spotify, Netflix, etc. Facebook with their "f…

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Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by dymk »

nasalgoat wrote: post #233
haunter wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The UI is just bad. You cannot browse profiles, you must say "yes" or "no" and the decision is final. So Tinder?

Yes, but on Tinder the profiles will re-appear later when you go back to swipe again. Other apps allow general browsing and better photo viewing too.

Wait, are you saying that Tinder will show you accounts that you've swiped left on at a later date? I have not found that to be the case.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by magashna »

LyndsySimon wrote: post #228
asdfman123 wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, try putting "Card-carrying gun owner and anti-abortion activist" on your resume and apply for big tech companies. Or hell, even start a personal blog using your real name talking about opinions that are anathema to coastal dwellers. Watch your callback rate dramatically decline. I grew up in a suburb of a conservative state, and I learned early on when to show "who I am and what I really believe" and when to be…

> Okay, try putting "Card-carrying gun owner and anti-abortion activist" on your resume and apply for big tech companies. Well, a resume isn't a place for that sort of thing at all, but I do pretty much that now. My name is unique - look me up. For what that's worth, a good portion of my posts even here on HN have something to do with guns. I try to be more "informative" than "confrontational", but that's because of…

>I'm an anarchist. The license plate on my Jeep is literally "ANARCHY."

Paying the government a premium to say you don't believe in it, that's rich.

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