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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by latexr »

floatboth wrote: post #208
latexr wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Webkit and blink are browser engines Petty sure Webkit is also a browser you can build and run, like Chromium.

No, WebKit is an engine. It ships with small demo browsers for some platforms (minibrowser for gtk, at least) but that's it. You might be confused by Apple calling its nightly Safari builds "WebKit technical preview" or whatever. It (used to) show up as "WebKit.app", but it's literally Apple Safari.

> You might be confused by Apple calling its nightly Safari builds "WebKit technical preview" or whatever. It (used to) show up as "WebKit.app", but it's literally Apple Safari.

Probably that, yes.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by coffekaesque »

If only they could help us, Firefox supporters, by stopping with the stupid market campaigns that only damages the brand. And the amount of nagging features are becoming too much. Even with my huge user.js it's like every couple of updates I have to disable something. Last week was the extensions recommendations inside about:addons, and I already had disabled "Recommend extensions when I'm browsing". The other was an icon (Firefox Sync?) added to every single browser install I manage and a tab asking me to login. How about a do-not-nag-me flag?

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by iamdamian »

mevile wrote: post #227
iamdamian wrote: post #87

I want to move on from Chrome, and Firefox's Containers have made Firefox an easy decision for me. But I am a huge fan of Chrome's aesthetic and don't want to give that up for the sake of privacy. I am not one to do extensive tweaking to my machine, but this is important to me, so I spent an hour experimenting. And I have to say, I am pretty satisfied. Even though it isn't straightforward, Firefox actually can look n…

I tried your changes. Your userChrome.css breaks containers though, as it hides the container color from the tabs. Your changes also breaks all the privacy controls you can get from Firefox on a per site basis. I think if someone tried your css and chose very strict privacy options they're not going to have any way to see that privacy control options may have broken a page. Those things in the address bar are vital.…

You’re right that it removes the color bars, so I’ve commented out that line as optional. But as far as I know, this CSS doesn't hide any site-specific privacy-related controls. Which ones are you referring to?

Note on the color bars: I'd rather not have extra noise in the tabs because I determine which container I’m in through the address bar and automated domain containers. Of course, for someone who wants an overview of how many tabs are in each container, the color bars might be useful. It's a good point that this might be unexpected, even though it's noted in the CSS. So I've commented out that line and will let people enable it themselves.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by zamalek »

Lazare wrote: post #59

I switched to Chrome from Firefox years ago because Chrome has a better UX (faster, snappier, cleaner UI). A couple years ago I tried to switch back to Firefox (right after the Quantum project landed, and Firefox was meant to be a lot faster), but found FF to still be bloated, slow, and painful to use. A couple weeks ago I made another try to switch back to FF, and I have found the experience to be very pleasant this…

I've been on FF since quantum (Windows and Android), and I've been mighty impressed by the continual improvements.

Some websites just don't work on FF, so I have a chrome installation. Even a bare-bones (only 1Password and uBlock O) Chrome feels much slower than FF. Page loads in FF are near-imperceptible, but Chrome has blatantly obvious page-blanks during loading.

It really has come a long way, and I'm really looking forward to servo.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by edraferi »

dtroode wrote: post #183
edraferi wrote: post #99

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I had the same experience. Switched to Chrome from Firefox years ago, tried and was disappointed by the initial Quantum release, tried Firefox again with the “Chrome is killing uBlock Origin” announcement, very pleased this time. My main gripe with Firefox at the moment is Sync. It just doesn’t sync everything you need. My Firefox profile is highly customized, with a lot of extensions that all have their own complex…

Yes. Sync isn't so good. Now I am going to create a list of FF minuses

I’d be interested to see an analysis of how it compares to Chrome sync. I don’t think Chrome necessarily has a better solution for extension preference syncing, but I only missed it once I went all-in on Firefox containers.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by hrktb »

iamleppert wrote: post #226

The firefox devtools are painfully slow and clunky in the latest release. Until those are fixed I won’t be switching.

I always wondered how many devs don’t use multiple browsers, even just to split work and personal accounts.

I guess it’s a pain for people who hate switching context, or don’t have a hard line between the two.

Chrome dev tools are definitely great, I keep Chrome basically for that for sites I dev. Everything else is in firefox, and anythting private in Safari for synching.

The only issue is battery life, but as long as there’s Chrome there’s no way out anyway.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by TheArcane »

edraferi wrote: post #207
TheArcane wrote: post #162

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Oh I absolutely detested this as well. Containers is one of my favourite add-ons, and I have it highly customized. But I have to set it up everytime from scratch on a different computer - there's no sync even though Containers is from Mozilla themselves!

Edit: replied to wrong comment Yeah this is exactly the problem.

I think you meant to reply to a different comment.

I was lamenting the lack of sync support for the Multi-account Containers add-on.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Post by edraferi »

auscompgeek wrote: post #107
edraferi wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same experience. Switched to Chrome from Firefox years ago, tried and was disappointed by the initial Quantum release, tried Firefox again with the “Chrome is killing uBlock Origin” announcement, very pleased this time. My main gripe with Firefox at the moment is Sync. It just doesn’t sync everything you need. My Firefox profile is highly customized, with a lot of extensions that all have their own complex…

I believe extensions have to explicitly add support for synchronising settings. For example, uBlock Origin supports Firefox Sync: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Cloud-storage

Cool, I’ll dig into this.

Would be helpful if the Firefox store made it clear if extensions support this. Also, why do some first-party extensions ignore it??

Also: there are other things sync still misses, like config.

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