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An Apology and an Update

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Re: An Apology and an Update

#231
post #9

A proper apology. These seem to have gone out of style.

Indeed. Compare and contrast with "sorry again for something new this week" Facebook. "We let everyone and their uncle access all your private data, my B dog." "Oh no, guess we helped cause a genocide, oopsie doodle."

Re: An Apology and an Update

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post #114
post #102

I'm curious whether IP blocking is actually enough to comply with the spirit of a trade embargo. Surely, the point of "not trading with Iran" is to avoid, through one's economic activity, enriching the citizens or corporations of Iran; and has nothing to do with preventing access to people who just happen to currently be within the geographic boundaries of Iran. (So: email blocking by detection of Iranian-ISP mail ho…

Its actually pretty funny. US and others says that Russia forcibly occupy Crimea. But now all people of Crimea is under embargo, not Russia. It like if its not enough, lets beat them harder.

Nobody forced people of "Crime" to go to vote for occupation. Formally, no one asked Russians if they want this occupation.

Re: An Apology and an Update

#233
post #40

I'm a big fan and critic of apologies. This one is pretty good. They admit the mistake was theirs and they take responsibility for it. They say sorry. They explain what they're going to do to fix the situation. They say they're going to learn from this and not have similar mistakes in the future. Pretty solid. The only thing that is missing, in my view, is personalization. Tell me who you are, speaking for the organi…

This is confusing: > We do not collect, use, or possess any information about the nationality or ethnicity of our users. No nationality? Don't they kind of have to collect nationality in order to comply with the law on implementing sanctions?

Aren't the sanctions on the country itself? It makes sense that you only block people that are in the country, not everyone that was born there.

Re: An Apology and an Update

#234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe there are unapologizable offenses that reveal true intrinsic character character flaws that can't be regretted away, but this definitely isn't one of them.

I have character flaws. Do you propose that we exclude people with certain flaws from our online communities? Which ones? Lack of empathy is a popular target, but children under 7 almost all lack empathy and they can be generous and kind despite it being intellectually motivated instead of emotional. Adults without empathy can be similarly productive members of our communities.

Do you have any specific unapologizably offensive character flaws that you want to admit to, or do you want me to try to make a judgement of whether or not you should be ostracized from society based on your one vague comment?

Re: An Apology and an Update

#235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes a special kind of naivete to think that a country worth placing this sort of embargo on is a country where "pressuring the government" would lead to any tangible results. That or a special kind of callousness, because most often the only way the citizenry can effect change is through violent revolt after reaching the boiling point of poverty and/or oppression.

Damaging an economy pressures a government whether or not there is any kind of pressure from the citizenry. Governments need economies to run, especially ones depending on the military to “keep peace”. It takes a special kind of naïveté to think governments run in a vacuum independent of the economy.

It's cute you think a failing economy is any pressure to the sort of government I'm talking about.

Sincerely, a citizen of a country whose government literally actively bankrupts it.

Re: An Apology and an Update

#236
post #224

I wonder why Slack so cares about blocking poor Crimeans from its service and at the same time Visa and MasterCard are accepted freely in any town of Crimea. Why these payment schemes are allowed to work there despite the embargo?

Why do you think so? Visa and MasterCard are banned in Crimea. Visa and MasterCard can't track its holder location.

Banned or not, there are ATMs and POSes across whole Crimea, accepting Visa and MasterCard. There was a brief period in 2014 when the schemes withdrew from the peninsula, but they get back pretty soon in 2015.
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