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Post by dnautics »

maplant wrote: post #75
dnautics wrote: post #68

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> In fact, the demolition of the social system in the south is precisely preventing it from really leaving the crisis. Isn't it arguable though that the politicians are choosing to cut social welfare instead of choosing to cut cronyism and political favors? In which case it's actually the left-wing which is abusing the economic crisis, using those in poverty as pawns in a bigger game? > I want higher taxes if it come…

> Isn't it arguable though that the politicians are choosing to cut social welfare instead of choosing to cut cronyism and political favors? In which case it's actually the left-wing which is abusing the economic crisis, using those in poverty as pawns in a bigger game? I don't understand what you're saying here. Cutting social welfare is not a left wing position. Neither is avoiding to cut cronyism.

It's not a left wing position, it's what they do.

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Post by renjimen »

ido wrote: post #230
renjimen wrote: post #227

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You certainly don't move to Copenhagen long term to make money. You come for the quality of life! The accumulation of wealth is just not as big of a deal here as it is in the UK or the US. Most people trust the state to take care of them should they need help, and people generally trust each other to contribute to the economy if they are fit and able. If you're coming from North America I might add that you are legal…

Well I live in Berlin on similar salaries but the costs here are half of what I've seen in Copenhagen. I can't imagine a comfortable middle-class life in Berlin on half of what I make.

You're right, the cost of living in Copenhagen is very high. Rent is among the European top 10 and food quality/price is abysmal. Then again, Berlin is a little anomalous in how cheap it is, don't you think?

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Post by ido »

renjimen wrote: post #232
ido wrote: post #230

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Well I live in Berlin on similar salaries but the costs here are half of what I've seen in Copenhagen. I can't imagine a comfortable middle-class life in Berlin on half of what I make.

You're right, the cost of living in Copenhagen is very high. Rent is among the European top 10 and food quality/price is abysmal. Then again, Berlin is a little anomalous in how cheap it is, don't you think?

Let me rephrase...you were saying €80k gross (=€40k net) is normal for a developer with 5-10 years experience. I assume that the average person is earning a lot less than a dev with 5-10 years of experience.

And €40k is already not exactly living it large in a city with much lower costs of living, I can't imagine how it would be beyond working-poor for somewhere like Copenhagen. Let alone the much lower amount that the average person in Copenhagen would earn.

Re: Brain Drain Within the EU?

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Post by renjimen »

ido wrote: post #233
renjimen wrote: post #232

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You're right, the cost of living in Copenhagen is very high. Rent is among the European top 10 and food quality/price is abysmal. Then again, Berlin is a little anomalous in how cheap it is, don't you think?

Let me rephrase...you were saying €80k gross (=€40k net) is normal for a developer with 5-10 years experience. I assume that the average person is earning a lot less than a dev with 5-10 years of experience. And €40k is already not exactly living it large in a city with much lower costs of living, I can't imagine how it would be beyond working-poor for somewhere like Copenhagen. Let alone the much lower amount that t…

Yeah, I don’t know how the average earner does it. I’ve heard the average wage is around 40k Euros a year, and AFAIK there aren’t big tax reductions for lower earners. I’ve also heard that Danes are up to their eyeballs in personal debt, so... maybe not the fairytale country in all aspects

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Post by jayalpha »

lispm wrote: post #212
jayalpha wrote: post #200

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"Perfect German. Different meaning." Debatable if a German teacher would accept this sentence in an Essay, except as a stylistic element. Please try to understand the concept of word order and Declension. Try to translate the latin phrase morituri te salutant to English and German. If you can, you have understood declension. "There are numbers how long it takes for an English speaker to learn a different language...…

> Debatable if a German teacher would accept this sentence in an Essay, except as a stylistic element That's not relevant to determine whether this is valid German. An easy Google finds zillions of these: https://www.mdr.de/sachsen-anhalt/magdeburg/magdeburg/hund-b... https://bnn.de/lokales/achern/rheinau-gebissen > What is really totally irrelevant for the discussion. Please try again to understand the topic. Please…

Hey Bozo, I never said it is a difficult language. I just said the grammar will be easier for a Russian or Polish speaker than for an English speaker.
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