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Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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> But what unpatched security flaws have been reported in older versions of iOS that would allow an attacker to install a keylogger or otherwise exfiltrate user data? …a jailbreak?

I haven’t been able to find an untethered Jailbreak for iOS 5 - ie a method for an unsuspecting user to have his iOS device compromised. A “tethered jailbreak” means the user purposefully went through a series of steps to jailbreak thier device or someone else physically got access to thier device.

I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here. The difference between an "untethered" and a "tethered" jailbreak is that an untethered one sticks around after you reboot your phone. So how exactly is this relevant here?

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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I had a cheese-grater Mac Pro G5 for 8 years that still worked beautifully when I gave it away . I did upgrade memory at one point. An external display had a power supply problem after a few years. I replaced the graphics card. The ability to replace parts does help but I’ve also had a MBP since 2013 that has no accessible parts that also works fine. Of course, on the flip side I’m grateful for this reliability becau…

In February my daily driver machine for development, VMs, "normal work", etc. will begin it's tenth year. It's a 2009 Mac Pro. I don't notice any slowness or issues. Have not needed to replace anything. Have not upgraded beyond the original 8GB of RAM. I just loaded El Cap on it this past year (latest OSX release it will take without a firmware upgrade) and plan to continue using it for years ...

I'm in the same boat with my circa-2010 Macbook Air. Its still supported as it has an i5, but its ancient by today's standards. Still holds a 3+ hour battery charge on its original cells though, boots in under 20 seconds on SSD (running 10.12 on it, haven't taken the High Sierra plunge), and everything on it works. I'd love to have more RAM and a retina display but tbh, it ain't broke so I'm not replacing it and when/if I do, it will likely be replaced with the 2016 version that just upgraded the RAM and I'll use it for another decade.

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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I haven’t been able to find an untethered Jailbreak for iOS 5 - ie a method for an unsuspecting user to have his iOS device compromised. A “tethered jailbreak” means the user purposefully went through a series of steps to jailbreak thier device or someone else physically got access to thier device.

I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here. The difference between an "untethered" and a "tethered" jailbreak is that an untethered one sticks around after you reboot your phone. So how exactly is this relevant here?

An untethered jailbreak is one that doesn’t required you to be connected to your computer. (http://osxdaily.com/2010/11/24/tethered-jailbreak-vs-untethe...). A tethered jailbreak requires you to be connected to a computer.

The difference is that an untethered jailbreak takes advantage of a security flaw in the OS that could be theoretically embedded into a website that you visit and your phone could be jail broken without your knowledge.

A tethered jailbreak means that you either intentionally took steps to bypass the security of the OS or someone who had access to your device did.

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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You can still use a first generation iPad today and do all of the stuff you did with it in 2010. Yes you can also redownload older apps from the store.

No, I can't unfortunately. Too many apps rely on web backends that have been upgraded and are incompatible with the versions that run on iPad 1. For example, the built-in YouTube application on iPad 1 is completely non-functional. Also, the newer iCloud features require you to "update" your iCloud to a version incompatible with the old iPad. Many older apps have now also been pulled from the store. My iPhone 1 can on…

Being able to download the last compatible version doesn’t work with iOS 3 but does work with iOS 5. I don’t know about iOS 4.

I have a first gen iPod Touch running iOS 3.x and a first gen iPad running iOS 5. Of course I have newer devices too.

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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And that happens today every day with the iPhone? There are plenty of professionals, both authorized and unauthorized by Apple, that can do nearly any repair necessary on an iPhone.

No, it does not happen with the iPhone or most other Apple products. They are incredibly hostile to 3rd party repairers. Apple is notoriously draconian about ensuring that 3rd parties are blocked from accessing schematics and repair manuals. I'm talking, they threaten lawsuits to anyone publishing schematics, and there is no legal way to obtain those schematics unless you're an Apple authorized repairer - in which ca…

That video was fun, thank you.

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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Of course you're missing out one option - perhaps they actually aren't actually that much slower, but you're just used to newer stuff being much faster. The definition of slow changes.

This is clearly not the case: the C64 could respond to input faster than the a few-year-old iPhone.

Are you sure you aren't remembering incorrectly? I had a friend who loved to show how he could type faster than it could process

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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This "should last as long as possible" was already assumed... and frankly kind of insulting after buying apple products for many years. And we do expect to be able to repair... I took my iPhone 6 to apple because the battery was done. They "tested" it and said it was fine. I paid a third party to replace it since apple would not. Phone was fixed... couple weeks later apple admitted there were battery problems and wer…

And after your experience would you buy Apple again?

Re: Apple now strives to design and build products that last as long as possible

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> How easy is it for end-users to replace the battery in that off-warranty 5S? Oh. I see. I did it in about 45 minutes the first time, and could do another in 20-30 minutes pretty easily. It's now a 5-year old phone. 10 minutes labor per year is OK in my book. How easy is it for end-users to replace the clutch in that off-warranty Civic? For that matter, how many people even change their own brakes (one of the easies…

"For that matter, how many people even change their own brakes (one of the easiest DIY tasks, IMO)?" Most poor people, middle class (what's left). Although rental agreements, and section 8 leases prohibit working on any vechicle on said properties. The average person should know how to repace at least the front disc brake pads. (Jack, torx, or 12-13 mm socket, c-champ to push fluid back into reservoir, and pads. 2 ho…

> Hell, I still cut my hair with a vacuume cleaner?

How do you cut your hair with a vacuum cleaner?

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