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Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by sk5t »

Fnoord wrote: post #129
jimnotgym wrote: post #75

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> The common reason why people tend to stick to Windows is games For home users perhaps. Enterprise users are often locked into ERP clients, for instance, that are Windows only. But the real killer reason enterprises use Windows is Active Directory. Simple GUI SSO and policy based management. For instance I could have a white-list that didn't have this adware on it and could apply it by group-policy...

Active Directory is just a fancy name for LDAP, Kerberos, and DNS (often in combination with CIFS). There's no reason why you cannot use an equiv in a partly or pure Linux/UNIX environment. And indeed, there are many partly Linux/UNIX environments where the servers are running on Linux/UNIX yet the clients are running on Windows. The killer feature of Windows is that people are used to running it as desktop, meaning…

Group Policy (which is really a mostly-unrelated thing propagated through AD) is probably the hardest-to-replace part of the equation.

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by oxide »

sgroppino wrote: post #210
nmg wrote: post #166

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One of the most frustrating parts of Win10 is the update scheduling. You can request that an update be delayed, but the OS does not always honor the request as specified (settings - update & security - windows update - active hours). In Win10 Pro, you can postpone an update for max 35 days (windows update - advanced options - pause updates), but never indefinitely. If a pending update will break your machine (and you…

Are there no registry entries or system scheduler tasks that one can disable to stop the updates altogether?

I'm positive if it was a regedit away there would be wide spread dissemination of all relevant information and likely a very simple process for nuking it.

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by pjmlp »

code_duck wrote: post #224
pjmlp wrote: post #213

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Looking at the official numbers of desktop Linux installed systems looks like it.

Why would we take that one, narrow specific segment of software taken as an example of the success or value of open source as a whole? It would be as useful as comparing web server software market share as an indicator of whether Microsoft has succeeded as a company.

Moving goal posts here? I thought the subject was desktop software.

Yes, Linux won the server side, it is hard to fight against free beer.

Now getting desktop software companies to invest in such market is another story.

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by jimnotgym »

Fnoord wrote: post #129
jimnotgym wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The common reason why people tend to stick to Windows is games For home users perhaps. Enterprise users are often locked into ERP clients, for instance, that are Windows only. But the real killer reason enterprises use Windows is Active Directory. Simple GUI SSO and policy based management. For instance I could have a white-list that didn't have this adware on it and could apply it by group-policy...

Active Directory is just a fancy name for LDAP, Kerberos, and DNS (often in combination with CIFS). There's no reason why you cannot use an equiv in a partly or pure Linux/UNIX environment. And indeed, there are many partly Linux/UNIX environments where the servers are running on Linux/UNIX yet the clients are running on Windows. The killer feature of Windows is that people are used to running it as desktop, meaning…

> Active Directory is just a fancy name for LDAP, Kerberos, and DNS (often in combination with CIFS).

I don't quite agree, Active Directory is an easy to learn and deploy implementation of LDAP, Kerberos, and DNS (often in combination with CIFS) with a friendly GUI interface. It also adds Group Policy, which is less simple to replicate on Linux. Then it adds a huge pool of admins which have been through the vendor supplied training process. I can show people how to create a user and add them to my company defaults in minutes, and not just because they are familiar with Windows, but because they are familiar with the desktop metaphor

I am a keen Linux user, I am typing this on Linux in fact. We have lots of processes running on Linux in fact. But I cannot replace the ease of AD in Linux. And more than that, our ERP client only runs on Windows...

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by richjdsmith »

dabber wrote: post #115
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #7

It's sad that FileZilla remains so popular long after the creator has chosen to monetize it with adware. I highly recommend any FileZilla user reading this should switch to WinSCP. It's free, open source, and not bundled with any crapware.

I posted this further down the thread but may as well say it here too. Cyberduck[1] was what I moved to after the FileZilla installer on Sourceforge forced me to wipe & reinstall Windows a few years back. It's available for MacOS and Windows, GPL3 licensed[2] and worked great for me at the time. I've since moved to Linux so I haven't been able to play around with any of the newer features/versions but it would be the…

I've been using Cyberduck for the past year and it is great. It was my replacement for Filezilla.

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by dang »

NiveaGeForce wrote: post #206
dang wrote: post #194

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This account has been using HN exclusively to promote a pro-Microsoft agenda for a long time. That's a serious abuse of this site and I've banned it. All: Agenda-driven and single-purpose accounts aren't allowed on Hacker News because they're incompatible with the intellectual curiosity this site exists for. Double that when the agenda or single purpose is advancing corporate interests. It doesn't matter what corp it…

This is a serious false accusation. Am I not allowed to prefer Windows? All I did was correct the rampant misinformation and bias against Windows that rarely gets challenged. And do you really think someone working for Microsoft would post something like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/7of68m/surface_pro...

I didn't say you work for Microsoft. I have no way of knowing that, and it doesn't seem likely. But you can't use HN exclusively to promote one company over others. The reasons ought to be obvious.

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by dang »

ksk wrote: post #182
dang wrote: post #156

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You've crossed into incivility in this thread. That's not allowed on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else (or everyone else) may be. If you could please (re-)read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and not do it again, we'd appreciate that.

While its obvious that I have done no such thing, I find it rather interesting that people calling other people "scum" are not reminded of "civility".

The likeliest explanation for that is always the simplest one: we didn't see it. Obviously, though, breaking the rules isn't justified by other people breaking the rules. It always feels like the other person started it (and did worse), so one could use that to justify anything.

Re your comments, personal swipes like "you seem very confused", "you are unable to understand", "rather than wild accusations and hysteria, I'd recommend calm collected analytical thinking" are certainly uncivil and violate the site guidelines. We ban accounts that make a habit of this, so please (re-)read the rules and use the site as intended from now on: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by krylon »

jijji wrote: post #178
belorn wrote: post #71

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Getting off platforms is usually quite hard with most trying to be as sticky as possible. The common reason why people tend to stick to Windows is games, even if the situation has gotten better. Personally I have come to the conclusion that the best solution is virtual machines with a linux base system. Put every game that is sticky to windows into its own little container and just have hardware passed through. That…

The opposite is true for my purposes... I run linux and then use virtualbox to run windows 10 for the only app i'm using windows for, which is QuickBooks. I gave up on closed source software decades ago. With Windows, every six months you have to reinstall your machine because of malware and of course the hour(s) of lost productivity per day compared to linux. Good luck with that.

At work, I have been using my laptop for ~3.5 years now, running Windows 7, without reinstalling once. If you take some care, don't just install any random piece of software you run across, only download software from trustworthy sources, etc., it is possible to keep a system free of malware.

Just to be clear, at home, I run GNU/Linux, too. But it's not like catching a virus is inevitable fate on Windows.

Re: Filezilla installer is suspicious again

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Post by krylon »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #7

It's sad that FileZilla remains so popular long after the creator has chosen to monetize it with adware. I highly recommend any FileZilla user reading this should switch to WinSCP. It's free, open source, and not bundled with any crapware.

If you do not require a GUI, FarManager[0] is great, too. It allows access to remote folders over ftp, sftp, smb (and probably others), is very light on resources, free software (BSD license), and all around a joy to use.

[0] https://www.farmanager.com/

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