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Re: Firefox 60 released

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Regardless who is technically at fault, the Firefox team is best placed to resolve the issue. It kind of surprises me that this is an issue at all. I was under the impression a large number of FF devs use Macbooks.

Yeah, well they know what the problem is but it fails to get a high enough priority to get solved: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1407536

Hi, I'm one of the commenters on that bug.

The discussion is all specific to that page. The biggest issue is that the animations are being driven from Javascript instead of CSS, so there's little we can do to optimize it.

The rest of the discussion is possible heuristics we can implement to optimize how we layerize the page. It would potentially help on this page, but might make things slower elsewhere.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Obvious stuff that's too pro-user:

Tab pause button.

Or better, opt in to not pause; I hacked up a -STOP for webkit (surf/glide) when the tab/window was not in the foreground. The X plumbing was tricky and never quite right. Still on my TODO to finish.

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Chiming in here. I would absolutely love to switch to Firefox for a host of reasons, ranging from "I don't want to use Google products" to "I love the tabs". Unfortunately, it's completely unusable for my workflow on a 2015 Macbook Pro with 16G RAM. I keep a variety of tabs pinned (JIRA, Zeplin, Gitlab, Jenkins, Invision, etc) and it seems as if they continue to hog a disproportionate amount of resources even when in…

I really want to switch to Firefox, so every once in a while I force myself to use it 'properly' for a week or two at least. Such a two week period has just ended, and while FF does feel snappier than before, I'm running into exactly the issues you describe. When using Firefox, my four-year old MacBook Air pretty regularly slows down to the point where my music starts stuttering and even force-closing FF takes a whil…

I'm in the exact same boat. Trying since a year to switch (back) to FF, but my testing period always end in frustration. Chrome is much more "snappy" in all regards.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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My coworker likes to say "None of this [tech] shit is cool" and that's kind of how I feel about browsers.

Firefox Quantum is quite nice but in the past, I've had a constant resizing bug that makes it unusable on my home laptop plus the numerous issues listed below.

Alternatively, Chrome is neat but I find it runs sluggish after a while on my older Macbook. I wish it had container tabs a la Firefox and the upcoming "disabled autoplay by default" change is really annoying.

I feel the same about OSs anyway but it's easy to complain rather than contribute bug fixes. Mind you, I don't know eg; C++ so

Re: Firefox 60 released

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From the comparison of the lists, looks like desktop is still their focus, which points to a sad level of navel gazing for an internet company in 2018. Makes me question whether they are focused on competing with Chrome or whether they just want to make cool tech.

I'm fine with them focusing on desktop. That's where I'd rather be anyway.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Aside from continuous memory issues which others have mentioned, my biggest issue is that we still cannot have access to core FF pages and elements with webextensions (ex: mouse gestures on blank/new tabpages, userscripts on RSS feeds, scroll through tabs with mouse wheel, etc...)

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Unfortunately, looks like the CPU spikes are still a problem on OS X for me. I check this every time a new version is released as I'd love to make the switch from Chrome, but Firefox with one blank tab and no extensions uses more CPU than Chrome with 15 actual tabs. When I actually throw activity at Firefox it hogs the CPU even more. Here's hoping v61 addresses it.

Same here, still not usable on my mac

Re: Firefox 60 released

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I know everyone has there own work flows, but how can you even keep track of that many tabs? After about 8 or 9, I find myself tabbing through half of a dozen tabs to get where I'm going, and at that point I realize I've added like 5 new tasks to my original stack of todos or research or whatever I was originally doing. At that point it's time to shut some tabs and concentrate on the original item. Also, once I've lo…

> I find myself tabbing through half of a dozen tabs to get where I'm going Why are you tabbing at all? If you type "* foo" in the url bar (without hitting enter), you will get a list of tabs whose url or title includes "foo". You can select one to jump to it. Much faster than linearly going through tabs.

that's not working in latest Chrome. I'll do a little searching around as that would help my own workflow quite a bit. Thanks.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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post #217

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Firefox 52 may be around for a while - it's the last LTS before extensions were broken by Quantum, and it's also the last release that runs on XP and Vista.

It seems that ff esr60 will be the only esr in august: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

That's a minimum, but I haven't heard any noise from Mozilla about pushing it any further. Either way I'm sure some third party will pick it up and it will live forever. The only question is the % of people who switch.
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