I got excited until I remembered that I have a bricked chromebook under my bed. It just stopped working one day, and before that froze often enough to be annoying.
You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
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Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
And weight is relative to strength and dimensions in this conversation, right? Plastic starts to get pretty large to match strength of aluminum.
Modern plastic composites with carbon fiber / glass fibers can perform as well or better than metals with regard to strength-to-weight. Plastics also have many other properties that make it preferable for a laptop case. Apple have chosen aluminium to give the impression of build quality. The competition are too often judged by their plastic cases instead of other attributes, such as the lack of glued-in batteries and…
> Apple have chosen aluminium to give the impression of build quality.
My MBP is going on 6 years old and I have not been gentle with it. In fact I have dropped it on concrete multiple times. It is dented and scraped, the hinge is crooked. It still works perfectly. My previous, plastic laptop (also a Mac) had to have its shell replaced twice (under warranty) in less time than that.
You may feel that aluminum is not worth the trade-offs or the cost, and that's fine, but I want to be clear, the MBP's build quality is not just a shiny facade.
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It never officially stood for that.The backronym was there even when the name WINE itself was very, very new [1]. [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.misc/_g3F2H4ie...
Interesting linked post, thanks, but the project FAQ was headlined "The Wine (Windows Emulator) FAQ" even in 1998. Wine clearly is an emulator of the Windows APIs, it's just not a CPU emulator which was a much more common thing back then.
> Wine clearly is an emulator of the Windows APIs
No, WINE is a third party implementation of Windows APIs, that doesn't make it an emulator. Otherwise, Oracle JDK would be an "OpenJDK emulator".
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> with a proper display resolution 3:2? No thanks I don't really want black bars when watching movies... What I'd really really like is something with the build quality (especially the touchpad!) of a MacBook Pro, with decent and recent hardware, first class Linux support for all features, support for both USB-C and "old" USB and a decent keyboard with it. And that without paying more than for an technologically outd…
> No thanks I don't really want black bars when watching movies... I genuinely never understand people that watch movies on laptops. I find it a wholly unenjoyable experience. Do you own a TV? You’re missing so much of the experience watching a movie on anything smaller than 45” and TVs are dirt cheap these days. I saw a 65” the other day for $250...
In my case, I live on a boat so don't have the room for a 45 or 65 inch TV. Laptop it is.
But there are many, many circumstances why you'd watch TV on a laptop. I don't believe airlines would look too fondly on someone dragging their 65" TV on board.
Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
#235Will this make it possible to run Docker in a Chromebook? With Crouton, which is just a chroot, you can't run Docker at all (without changing the ChromeOS kernel), and can only run rkt containers. If this new Linux apps support really runs in a Debian KVM virtual machine, then maybe it will be possible to run Docker in that, which would be a massive advantage over what crouton provides. Anybody know?
I've been running Docker on my Chromebook for years.
I just installed GalliumOS on it (a native Linux OS tuned for Chromebooks).
It works really well.
Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
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apt-get is still the golden standard for installing apps on Linux because of its dependency resolution system, and being able to "sudo apt-get install " is a core use-case for end-users (i.e. students who are learning how to use Linux / code for the first time). Disclaimer: I work at Google, but not on Chrome OS.
Genuinely asking, what makes apt-get that much better than other package managers? Outside of Slackware I think good dependency resolution is pretty much universal at this point, and I can't say I've ever noticed any major problems with pacman, for instance.
It not APT itself, but the policies, tooling and practices around creating and installing packages.
A lot of work is done to ensure smooth upgrades, or prevent packages from breaking each other by overwriting files, breaking configurations, changing ownership of some files or directories and so on.
Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
#237If anyone wants to run Linux apps on their Chromebook right now, you can just install GalliumOS.
I think it's better than the VM solution that's mentioned in the article because GalliumOS gets installed natively, so there's no VM. You can choose to dual boot it with ChromeOS.
It runs really well, and it's hyper optimized for Chromebooks. It's just a fork of xubuntu.
I've been running it on my Chromebook for 2 years and I use it as a portable development machine. It's nice having a $350 laptop with a 1080p IPS screen, SD ports, enough computing power to run Dockerized web apps and weighs under 3 pounds.
Details on how I set it all up can be found at https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/transform-a-toshiba-chromeboo....
Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
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Technically, VS Code is based on Google software.
just curious, isn't vscode based on Atom, which afaik is a GitHub project?
VS Code and Atom are based on Electron, which is a platform by GitHub using the Google Chrome browser engine, which was forked off Apple‘s WebKit engine, which was forked off KHTML from the KDE project.
Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
#239If anyone wants to run Linux apps on their Chromebook right now, you can just install GalliumOS. I think it's better than the VM solution that's mentioned in the article because GalliumOS gets installed natively, so there's no VM. You can choose to dual boot it with ChromeOS. It runs really well, and it's hyper optimized for Chromebooks. It's just a fork of xubuntu. I've been running it on my Chromebook for 2 years a…
You lose the security when using GalliumOS. Used all the methods to use GNU/Linux on a CB. From using Crouton, Gallium, GNURoot, Termux and now using this as have a PixelBook.
In the US so our school uses Chromebooks which replaced all the Macs. Had to hack together a way to use the CBs for AP CS 1 and 2. But now it will have support built in.
By far the best approach is what Google is doing here. Keep all the security and no need to dual boot or put in developer mode.
Plus this makes GNU/Linux far more approachable. Will also be able to walk into a BestBuy and chose between a bunch of different machines depending on your requirements.
We also have five new higher end CBs in development and would guess partially because of this new functionality.
This is ideal as you can use the hook if a power user to basically do anything you want. Run Wine or Steam or Docker or pretty much anything as you have the vector you needed. But then also can be used by a new user as the approach is basically just a click. Also we should get instant GNU/Linux applications. Container comes down, spins up, do what you need, goes away.
"Here are five high-end Chromebooks in development to challenge the Pixelbook"
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixelbook-alternative-...
Re: You can now run Linux apps on Chrome OS
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> with a proper display resolution 3:2? No thanks I don't really want black bars when watching movies... What I'd really really like is something with the build quality (especially the touchpad!) of a MacBook Pro, with decent and recent hardware, first class Linux support for all features, support for both USB-C and "old" USB and a decent keyboard with it. And that without paying more than for an technologically outd…
> No thanks I don't really want black bars when watching movies... I genuinely never understand people that watch movies on laptops. I find it a wholly unenjoyable experience. Do you own a TV? You’re missing so much of the experience watching a movie on anything smaller than 45” and TVs are dirt cheap these days. I saw a 65” the other day for $250...
My kids have nice TVs in their room and a rarely see them use them. Instead they watch movies on their Chromebooks majority of the time.
Are go to for the kids are the Acer 14s. Just incredible machines for the money. All aluminum chassis, peppy performance, long battery life, etc. Get them Acer refurb for about $200. Best value you can get.
Wife uses a CB+ and me a PB.
Wife spends a ton of time on her CB+ and does often time watch movies on it. While I never do on my PB. Often times she will be watching a movie on hers laying in our bed while I am watching something on our TV in our bedroom.