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Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#231

Reddit is pushing to become a news site rather than a community site.

I don't think so. Most content on the frontpage is pictures and videos, not news. They added image and video hosting relatively recently so users wouldn't leave the site while consuming media. They can't do that with news

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

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post #4

Sadly, the reddit website has become a travesty - especially on mobile. A huge "DOWNLOAD THE REDDIT APP" banner obscures literally 30% of the page. There is a teeny-tiny "view on mobille site" link in small, low-contrast text that can be used to dismiss the annoying banner. Due to its size and user-hostile design, the Reddit banner is even worse than most news sites that try to push their newsletter/app/subscription…

protip: append ".compact" to the URL (before the "?" query string, if any). All reddit links will also now automatically have .compact. Bookmark it. Starter pack: https://www.reddit.com/.compact https://www.reddit.com/r/all.compact https://www.reddit.com/message/inbox/.compact This gives the old reddit mobile experience, which is far lighter and better. But some things are broken, e.g. "submit" is broken; "parent" ta…

You can also just change the subdomain to i.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com to achieve the same effect.

e.g.

https://i.reddit.com/r/all

I personally find this quicker to type.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#233

Reddit is terrible for discussion anyway. You can't have a discussion when people can "downvote" your post. Nothing of value has been lost here. I say that as someone who used reddit heavily until about a month ago when I kicked the addiction.

All downvoting does is enforce 'crowd-think'. You could never picture it today, but back in 2012, /r/politics was much more central then it was today (still left leaning, but you could actually find differing opinions). But soon after that election, anyone who disagreed would get downvoted into oblivion, and eventually those people stop posting. And what you're left with is today's /r/politics. You can see this in a…

That happens with large enough communities everywhere, since the dawn of the internet. Eventually users move to smaller subs where there's more quality discussion

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#234

From reading Reddit threads about the redesign: pretty much everyone hates it, especially Reddit’s most passionate users, who have been very articulate, consistent, and aligned about exactly what they don’t like, and Reddit just keeps brushing them off and dismissing their point of view. Maybe the purpose of the redesign is something like monetization? Or maybe they are just out of touch and by the time they really u…

Of course it's about monetization. There's a difference between how Reddit-the-company (and its investors) view the site, and how its users do. It's like with cafés - visitors likes them quiet, and would very much enjoy having an electrical outlet near the table (to charge up phone) and even free Wi-Fi. But cafés aren't in business of making peoples' life better and more enjoyable, they're in business of selling coff…

Genuinely interested to know where in the world the cafes are like that.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#235
post #108

Top tier sites like reddit should not drop large, disruptive, releases like this. Take Amazon for example. If they went from the design 5-7 years ago straight to the current design, there would be uproar, Stock price dip etc. The incremental approach allows the site owner to both roll back bad ideas but also condition users into where the design is heading. (Correction: not Conde Nast) The owner, has a plan, which is…

> I am struggling to think of big drops like this working, anyone? Gmail has done major overhauls all in one go. So has Dropbox. Google calendars. Google earth. Apple's main site. Most newspaper's sites. Bitbucket. Facebook has had several. All of these have irritated some portion of users who decried the death of the product, yet eventually people get used to it. I think it works more often than not. And if we went…

Talking about gmail...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/gmail-com-redesign-l...

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're on iOS, use Apollo instead: https://apolloapp.io/ Hands down the best Reddit app for iOS.

Neither this nor the alternatives in the replies to you mention anything about moderator tools. Even the official reddit mobile app only finally got things like viewing mod queue, and approve/remove/spam, very recently. Which means until recently using the actual site on my phone was the only way I could use reddit. This may seem like a niche request, but it holds back the ability of moderators to use reddit mobile a…

Readder does have mod tools but I'm not sure how in depth or good they are since I've never used them.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#237
post #106

I started using reddit in 2008. Although I doubt it was intentional reddit was a refuge from the "Best viewed with Javascript" modern web for many years. It worked just fine to browse and read with no JS enabled and was very snappy and low resource usage that way. Sure, you had to toggle JS back on to vote or post but that was easy enough. I left just before they pushed out the redesign due their increased censorship…

I'm with you on the JS stuff, the redesign screams "I want to be an app!" so desperately, I'm seriously considering leaving after a good 8 years on the site as well. Everything has that Javascript-delay on it, like it takes 0.5 seconds to click anything, scroll anything, etc. I gotta say though: >increased censorship That's ridiculous. They're "censoring" all kinds of bottom-of-the-barrel racist and disturbing shit w…

The reason to keep r/fatpeoplehate is simple. You cannot run a site where you censor things that some people dislike without falling into the hole of censoring all things.

Just look at cloudflare. The CEO did it out of spite and now they'll have to censor everything. It's already being used in court against them to force it even though they don't want to.

Once you're not just a host for discussion or not just a dumb pipe your job becomes to censor everything.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#238

Mobile phones. Again. It's always mobile phones that ruin good websites these days. They optimise for swipe, scroll and tap. Look, like, emoji. They don't optimise for text. In fact they are increasingly hostile to it. The Tinderfication of online dating has been a depressing race to the bottom. The internet was never going to be as great as we thought it was. No other technology has been. Folks thought the telegraph…

No, their i.reddit.com is the best variant and its extra light-weight probably for weaker devices.

Unfortunately creating posts is broken with that one, and for some features like editing posts you have to switch the interface.

I still use it instead of the standard interface, it loads much faster especially on bad mobile connections.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#239

How can an article about a re-design not actually show or compare the two designs?

https://www.wired.com/story/reddit-redesign/ This one at least has some screenshots of the new design. It feels like a Facebook clone to me. In particular it looks like they're flattening comments to be like FB rather than the thread? model that Reddit has today.

The only significant change I've noticed re: comments are how the nested chains collapse: instead of the intuitive [+] and [-] at the parent comment, there's a line that runs alongside the chain. Click that line and it collapses.

It's not as easy to figure out on your own, but it's a significant improvement IMO.

Re: Reddit's redesign could kill discussion subreddits

#240

Two reasons why Reddit isn't "digg-ing" their own grave right now: 1. This change is much smaller and less destructive than digg's big change (although the long term effects can be just as destructive). 2. When Digg's redesign caused an exodus, Reddit was extremely well known as "that ugly digg clone" and "this digg link was on Reddit yesterday". Reddit doesn't have a well known established "number two" the way digg…

Why should all these things be centralized, though? Before Reddit, there were disparate forums with different rules and structures - Reddit organized and unified them, but is now applying changes that make forums non-viable as a reddit use-case.
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