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Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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> A lot of male comedians transition to family jokes after having children. "dadmedians" Your kids will love hearing that about their dad, until they are older anyway and start to roll their eyes :)

Haha I mean professional comedians. Also, I took pictures of baby peeing on himself to show to his future dates. Can't wait!

Even if you lose the pictures, DAD can still tell the story. It has the same effect ;)

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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"One of Galinsky's more surprising findings centered around a question she posed to both children and parents: "If you were granted one wish to change the way your mother's/your father's work affects your life, what would that wish be?" Some 56 percent of parents anticipated that their children would want more time with their parents and for their parents to spend less time at work, yet only 10 percent of the childre…

"Wish for" != "what is good for you"

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Are you angry and negative about the negativity of the opinions expressed on the internet?

^ This.

You've been violating the guidelines a lot. Could you please take a look and stop?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Probably because helicopter parenting is in vogue (at least in the US). It is seriously messed up that you can have CPS called on you for letting your kid wander freely in the neighborhood

I can't get my kids out of the house. I try. All of their friends are on SnapChat and/or Steam games. No one leaves their rooms. It is really depressing. Kids are not getting fresh air anymore.

Why do you feel that it's so important that kids get "fresh air?" My parents relentlessly tried to get me to get off the computer and go outside. I hated it, and in retrospect I can't see how it did me any good.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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I remember that. A newborn who didn't want to sleep, no matter the hour, and parents so far into sleep deprivation that the only thing that mattered was sleep. I'm not sure how a baby that's supposed to sleep 18 hours a day can be awake all night, but... it certainly seems that way. Looking back, trying to make a baby sleep is like pushing a rope. It only works when they want to. If you can, tag team. For at least a…

Also, sleep when they sleep. If you think you can do chores in the first weeks think again.

Or months with twins.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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I'm making a joke. :) Thanks for the feedback. I made the list more outrageous so it's more obvious. A lot of male comedians transition to family jokes after having children. This could be the catalyst for my stand up career!

Ah, well it does now look a lot more like a joke :-) I have bad news for you. Getting a newborn to sleep is child's play. Try getting two 5ish year olds off to school in the morning. It's basically impossible!

Every morning, our 3-year-old wakes up and says, "I don't want to go to school!" Then when mom goes to pick him up from school, she can't get him to leave. Good times.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Probably because helicopter parenting is in vogue (at least in the US). It is seriously messed up that you can have CPS called on you for letting your kid wander freely in the neighborhood

I've read in some paper about Ice Cream Test: Whether your 7 years old can get to the corner store and back after buying an ice cream there without encountering any dangers such as traffic. Immediately thought that you could be jailed for that in some jurisdictions. Having said that, I think the number of people who let their kids free-range is decreasing everywhere unfortunately.

There was always some stigma against free-range parenting (think the grocery store scene in Home Alone) but it's gotten much, much worse

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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The problem is that 90% of the time the parents are now on their phones. Seriously I find myself on my phone and not interacting with my kids at times and I am super sensitive about phones. I don't allow phones during meals, during family time and not when someone is talking with you. I break my own rules a ton :(

I've mentioned this before on here, but for me tossing the smart phone and getting a flip phone has utterly changed the dynamic with my children. It has been 3 months, and I am still amazed (although I guess I shouldn't be) that being actually present with them when we interact has seemed to reduce their neediness/anxiety and improved our relationship/bond. If you can, I recommend giving it a try.

I think I need to give this a try. I may have to put my phone in a "dead zone" box or something when I get home so that I can be off and present with them.

I like the idea of turning on a ringtone so I can be reached but also not always surfing youtube/facebook/hacker news/etc. I don't know why but getting my computer out to do something seems a lot more effort and I'm less likely to do it.

I'm going to try this out tonight and go for 2 weeks to see how it goes. I'll re-assess then.

Thanks your comment was the impetuous I needed to figure out a way to do it without getting rid of the smart phone the rest of the day.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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"One of Galinsky's more surprising findings centered around a question she posed to both children and parents: "If you were granted one wish to change the way your mother's/your father's work affects your life, what would that wish be?" Some 56 percent of parents anticipated that their children would want more time with their parents and for their parents to spend less time at work, yet only 10 percent of the childre…

This makes sense. I would much rather have less and more positive interactions with my parents than more or more stressful ones. Some people seem to have a "my parent was never around" complex but that usually seems to involve some combination of 1. Parent completely absent, not home at night, not reliable or away for extended periods working or 2. Parent missing key, meaningful events like the "dance recital" trope…

This. My dad worked 70 hours a week and travelled for work 30% of the time growing up, but we never felt “he was never around” because he made it to graduation events and little league and called us every day after school.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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This makes sense. I would much rather have less and more positive interactions with my parents than more or more stressful ones. Some people seem to have a "my parent was never around" complex but that usually seems to involve some combination of 1. Parent completely absent, not home at night, not reliable or away for extended periods working or 2. Parent missing key, meaningful events like the "dance recital" trope…

This. My dad worked 70 hours a week and travelled for work 30% of the time growing up, but we never felt “he was never around” because he made it to graduation events and little league and called us every day after school.

Things like frequent phone calls seen inconsequential, but: 1) They take significant dedication and scheduling on the part of the parent(s) and, 2) Have an outsize impact on the perception of your dependability. Huge from a kid's perspective.
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