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> So 0.88 Tn. You mean 0.00088 Tn.
Well, it’s 0.88 percent of a trillion...
0.088.
Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People
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#232if the board had any self-respect they would shutter the shit-show that is uber and walk away. and yeah, that's walking away from a truckload of dough, but really, how can any board memeber look themselves in the mirror at this point? the business model is a joke, the culture is toxic, and basically its a failed experiment.
i've been back channel spanked by yc moderators on this topic for some of my snarky comments on uber, but all i have to do is wait a week or two for the next shoe to drop and then, well, there you have it..
uber is the poster-child for why the broader US loathes the valley. i would love to see real innovation and advancement become a reality out of SV soon and return the storied past to a real thing. but. as long as entities like uber and theranos, etc, etc are allowed to persist that will never happen...
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, day care operators have since learned... ... as I sit in my home office, just over an hour away from day care closing time I assure you I'm watching the clock like a hungry hawk watching a mouse. See, my kid's day care charges a mere $600 per hour late (billed in 1 minute increments). I don't see kids parents late that often :-) and we've come close to missing it, but haven't in two years.
> See, my kid's day care charges a mere $600 per hour late (billed in 1 minute increments). WOW, I'm in the wrong business I think. What else charges that much per hour? I don't even think a neurosurgeon could command that sort of rate!
The point is that you're not expecting people to ever pay it, because you've set it high enough to be a solid disincentive. If people are actually paying it regularly, you obviously haven't set it high enough.
This is also common when quoting freelance projects you don't really want to do.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
No no. My point probably just wasn't properly conveyed. In the original post I replied to the person the person encouraged their friends to use Lyft after hearing about the terrible things over at Uber. Presumably they want friends to switch over as to not support an organization they disagree with, but my point was that doing so is pretty much impossible to begin with. If the goal is to not support organizations tha…
Taking money away from a bad company helps stop that company from doing bad. Similarly, voting for a politician who will try not to kill civilians helps prevent civilians from being killed. Both of these are correct actions to take. Moving out of the country is comparatively less effective, and continuing to give money to the bad company is not effective at all.
I agree with you in general, but unfortunately things are never that simple. Most companies do good too, otherwise they wouldn't exist.
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#235Every day we see more evidence that boards of directors and senior management should be personally accountable financially and with respect to their liberty for the company they are managing or overseeing doing foul things that they ought to have known. The "I didn't know, I just took a vast salary to play golf" argument should not be any kind of defence. If there is the real prospect of going to jail, golfers will r…
How to implement though? You cant just give Jail-time for data breeches. It would encourage cover ups and scape goats. Also never underestimate just how disorganised large organisations are, incompetence at addressing issues is systemic and goes far beyond data protection. What seems like malice is sometimes just plain stupidity. It has to be backed by some sort of regulatory framework. Just like a fire code or emplo…
No, don't get hung up on unnecessary details.
The reasonable company director should have known X and when found out was bound to report it. Person Y did not report it, should have known as it was their job to know and there aren't extenuating circumstances. Guilty. 6 months. Next case.
"I don't know anything about this company I accept 7 figure sums to oversee as a director." Should never be any kind of legal defence. If senior management and directors have something personally at risk you'll see vastly improved behavior. Right now we're selecting for the opposite and seeing the inevitable results.
There is a story like this about directors and management cover ups every single day
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, day care operators have since learned... ... as I sit in my home office, just over an hour away from day care closing time I assure you I'm watching the clock like a hungry hawk watching a mouse. See, my kid's day care charges a mere $600 per hour late (billed in 1 minute increments). I don't see kids parents late that often :-) and we've come close to missing it, but haven't in two years.
Surely you are joking?? Why would you agree to such a thing?
If you know you can show up on time, why not?
My guess is that day cares do this to basically mean "show up on time, we're not f'ing around."
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recall a story (that I'll probably recount incorrectly) about a daycare business deciding that too many parents were arriving late to pick up their children (meaning that staff had to stay late with the kids), so they instituted a fine for late pickups. The result was that more parents were late. The reason being that the parents effectively considered the fine a "late pickup fee", and one they were more than willi…
Wait until the EU GDPR kicks and in fines of up to 4% of annual turnover or 20 million kick in...
I suspect they don't even need to wait for that. EU watchdogs have serious teeth and take privacy seriously.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Never underestimate the power of marketing. My mother for instance would use Uber over any ride-sharing system due to its insane exposure and the fact that these stories remain relatively unheard of in comparison.
It's already way more common to use "Uber" as a verb, or even a noun, that doesn't necessarily even mean Uber the company itself. People have asked me before if I'm about "to uber" or "take an uber" someplace and they say it in an obvious way that implies "any ridesharing company" (or lyft in my case since most people know I only lyft nowadays). Uber just as a word for ride-sharing has become ingrained and won't be e…
It’s weird, I’ve been using Lyft as my only ride-sharing service for almost a year, but still catch myself saying “I’ll Uber over there in a bit” all the time. It’s definitely because saying “I’ll get a Lyft” is indistinguishable from “I’ll get a lift” and I was to disambiguate that I’m talking about a ride-sharing service, but I wonder how many other people do this and if (in several years at least) their trademark is in danger.
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#239Every day we see more evidence that boards of directors and senior management should be personally accountable financially and with respect to their liberty for the company they are managing or overseeing doing foul things that they ought to have known. The "I didn't know, I just took a vast salary to play golf" argument should not be any kind of defence. If there is the real prospect of going to jail, golfers will r…
How to implement though? You cant just give Jail-time for data breeches. It would encourage cover ups and scape goats. Also never underestimate just how disorganised large organisations are, incompetence at addressing issues is systemic and goes far beyond data protection. What seems like malice is sometimes just plain stupidity. It has to be backed by some sort of regulatory framework. Just like a fire code or emplo…
Doesn't PCI work well in general? It has a large amount of overhead but we see very few credit card breaches from within the "PCI vault," while we see many Social Security number breaches and email/password combinations.
For example, the Target credit card breach occurred because malware intercepted the credit card information at the Point of Sale appliances before the information was encrypted and transmitted.
Prison time seems extreme, but Congress should should absolutely establish statutory fines (for companies) for breaches of PII. Then any company officer can save the company money by simply spending more on prevention because it will lower breach insurance premiums.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
And they say we need less regulation of corporate behavior.
Well look at this case as an individual circumstance: The US federal government decided 30 years ago that it was going to attempt to prevent some kinds of transactions from being part of the global economic growth. Kinds of transactions that were always here, and always willing to be part of the global economic growth. It decided to use other people's money to attempt to enforce this blockade, at great expense, for p…
By this logic, we should encourage murder, since it's always been around and sudden, violent loss of life can create jobs.