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Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by greglindahl »

arghwhat wrote: post #226
njarboe wrote: post #199

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He states that they have spent a lot of time talking to truckers and truck companies. I would guess they believe that with an electric drive train repairs and maintenance will be an order of magnitude lower (not sure how that works for tires and wheels). Body damage should also be much lower with automatic breaking and other features of enhanced autopilot. As Musk said, broken glass is a big cost for trucking as you…

Tires, wheels, suspension, bearings, steering, brakes and drive axles (one from each electric motor to its wheel) will be the same as a regular truck, maintenance-wise. The maintenance reduction basically only related to the motor itself. And, supposedly the "nuclear blast proof" windshield. A collision with a deer probably be much, much more expensive compared to a truck with a safari grill or plow mounted for safet…

Are you sure brakes go on the list? Regenerative braking uses the motor, not brake pads. The track record of this approach is already proven in cars.

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Post by jldugger »

njarboe wrote: post #202
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #135

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Security screws on purchasable goods really need to be banned for anything that doesn't pose an immediate and extreme health and safety hazard.

And I don't think anything sold in the US today, not to the Department of Defense, has anything that poses "an immediate and extreme health and safety hazard".

Microwaves have high voltage capacitors the size of your hand, which you should absolutely discharge during maintenance.

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by ksec »

I wonder how does Frozen Container works with this? I would be a huge drain to battery.

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by rebuilder »

gaustin wrote: post #149
tty7 wrote: post #29

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I have read the same comment (slightly modified) on HN since telsa announced their first vehicle. Tell me, have you actually worked on a new model truck? Because the days of a service manual and a backyard shed are over

Tesla will be selling into a very complicated industry. You think enterprise sales of software are hard, just wait. Tesla say their system includes all the functions necessary. I haven't seen a list but I doubt it. Even if they do it will literally take enterprise integration projects to hook them up to the largely bespoke systems used by existing trucking company backends. (E.g. 20 year old ADP systems)

So if Tesla has trucks, and is developing self-driving capability, and the trucking industry is a mishmash of legacy systems, what pieces does Musk need to just go into the trucking business direct?

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by AstralStorm »

arghwhat wrote: post #226
njarboe wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He states that they have spent a lot of time talking to truckers and truck companies. I would guess they believe that with an electric drive train repairs and maintenance will be an order of magnitude lower (not sure how that works for tires and wheels). Body damage should also be much lower with automatic breaking and other features of enhanced autopilot. As Musk said, broken glass is a big cost for trucking as you…

Tires, wheels, suspension, bearings, steering, brakes and drive axles (one from each electric motor to its wheel) will be the same as a regular truck, maintenance-wise. The maintenance reduction basically only related to the motor itself. And, supposedly the "nuclear blast proof" windshield. A collision with a deer probably be much, much more expensive compared to a truck with a safari grill or plow mounted for safet…

Technically nothing is preventing toy from installing the grille or a plow. Other than range of course and perhaps added cost on top.

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by daguava »

tyingq wrote: post #19
daguava wrote: post #13

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"formattedDeposit" : "$1,000", "hamsterDeposit" : "$5,000", "hamsterFullDeposit": "$50,000", "hamsterTotal1" : "$200,000", "hamsterTotal2" : "$250,000", Is the listed US prices

Curious what "hamster" means in this context.

Interestingly, I think Hamster actually ended up being the codename for the new Roadster, since it's listed with the prices mentioned above.

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by csomar »

nwmcsween wrote: post #147
colordrops wrote: post #141

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Because likely in a few years (less than 5 maybe?) these things will be driving themselves and if they get non-operational damage they'll just drive themselves to the nearest tesla maintenance center to get repaired.

Then it's dead out of the gate, almost every trucking company in existence does in house repairs due to cost.

I suspect trucking companies will get massively disrupted if trucks are driving themselves. Little reason for Google/Apple/Tesla to have them around.

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by greglindahl »

tsomctl wrote: post #14

Unlike their cars, if they want to be successful they will need to release factory service manuals and sell parts to repair them. It's not going to be acceptable to send it to some far away service center to be repaired, at least for small outfits that heavily use all their equipment. When a critical piece of equipment is down, the mechanic is going to be working through the night hacking it together, possibly waitin…

You might be pleased to learn that much of the sparsely-populated area of the US does its Tesla car repairs -- including minor stuff like replacing the engine -- with teams of 2 workers and a van -- and 4 hours for that engine swap.

Now imagine how that might work out for the truck industry.

Re: Tesla Semi

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Post by owlmirror »

akhatri_aus wrote: post #223
aerovistae wrote: post #192

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Call me a fanboy, but something tells me that the guy who built a revolutionary space program from scratch while successfully running a revolutionary auto company, probably has some ability to think things through pretty comprehensively from all angles and plan effectively for what's needed. Do you think you've just pointed out something that never occurred to him? Do you think if you could share your comments with h…

It wasn't really from scratch though was it, he hired out people who had already worked with space projects. None of the tech is really new (yet). We used to have the same types of rockets in the past. Amongst Model 3 fiasco Solarcity too currently has issues.

The entire reusability thing was not really a thing before spacex

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Post by kmonsen »

rand77763 wrote: post #230
mkempe wrote: post #201

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In the year to 2017-Aug, total US solar generation was 72.1 TWh, amounting to 1.80% of total US electricity (predicted to reach 5% by 2022; in 2016 US solar capacity almost doubled from the year before). Tesla semi consumption: One charge: 500 miles => There are about 2 million semi trucks in the US (tractor trailers). Assume that each semi fully charges once a day, 300 days a year. The conversion of all of the count…

There’s a lot of surface area on top of a trailer, just saying.

It will be stationary similar to supercharger
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