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First field report of iPhone X

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by mitchty »

criddell wrote: post #229
craftyguy wrote: post #218

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> Yes, but not because of the mindless sheep angle you seem to want it to be How do you explain the iphone x? > Lots of people are comfortable using iPhones and like how they work. They don't want to to switch to something else ok? That's not at all what I was talking about. > The End. Oh please, get over yourself.

What is there to explain about the iPhone X? It's the best new phone from Apple. If you keep a phone for two years and use it daily, then the hardware costs around $2 / day so it's affordable. If that's the ecosystem you are in and want a new phone, then that's a pretty reasonable choice.

I'm upgrading from my iPhone 6+, so in my case 3 years. And it works out to about $1 a day. Which is in the whatever category.

Expensive, sure, but at this point skipping every other generation or every every third generation is fine. The main reason for upgrading is the battery is starting to ghost. Its max charge is 1900mah from its original 2800(ish? i forget exactly)mah.

Call me a sheep if you want but I've tried my friends android phones and even have a nexus tablet. It just doesn't do it for me. Plus getting rid of all my high scores in games is no bueno. I've spent many years in lines perfecting them.

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Post by philwelch »

RoyTyrell wrote: post #110

My two questions are: 1. Is the X worth the extra $200/$300 on top of the 8? 2. Is the X worth the $1k+ I know "worth" is relative and depends on your personal requirements, but from someone who's likely a software dev on this site, is it really worth spending that kind of money?

Since Touch ID only works for me maybe 40-60% of the time, yes, it's worth it for me personally.

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Post by phonon »

socialist_coder wrote: post #182
PacketPaul wrote: post #51

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IOS on the 7 has been rock solid. What is wrong on the 6s?

I have a 6+ and it's been pretty slow since iOS 10. Sucks. Everything else with the phone is great, it's just dog slow now on modern iOS. =(

1 GB of RAM :-(

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Post by woobar »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #225
woobar wrote: post #181

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Siri is activated by side button. Passing a phone to the kids in the back probably more dangerous then glancing at the screen. Don't do it, please.

> Passing a phone to the kids in the back probably more dangerous then glancing at the screen Hmm, why? Looking at the screen takes your eyes off the road. Passing a phone back allows you to keep your eyes on the road. Why would that be more dangerous?

If we're going down this rabbit hole:

Glancing at the phone screen (that you can bring in front of you) will take a second and is very similar to glancing at the navigation screen. Now try to pass a phone to a kid behind you in a child seat or using a seatbelt. For starters, just try 'passing' a phone behind your chair without dropping it why looking into your computer screen.

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Post by parzivalm »

improbable22 wrote: post #164
parzivalm wrote: post #86

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Apple probably owns the design because most other manufactures hopefully see that you shouldn't be looking at a notch every time you are viewing a video. I've been an iPhone user since day 1 but the screen shape on this phone just makes so little sense. It wouldn't be the worst if Apple made it that iOS scaled everything so media wasn't blocked by the notch but instead if I get the iPhone X I have to wait for app dev…

Marco Arment nailed this: https://marco.org/2017/09/18/courage The iphone had an instantly recognisable silhouette for 10 years: symmetrical forehead & chin, with a big round home button. Going to very thin bezels necessarily throws this trademark away. Making lemonade, as it were, they've chosen to embrace the notch to create a new trademark.

To me, what made the iPhone great for so long was more than its look physically. It was the integration between the software and the hardware. Everyone saying that the notch is a new trademark is explaining away the fact that isn't the case anymore.

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Post by pasbesoin »

If my $300 Moto G5+ (temporary replacement for my bootlooped Nexus 5X) were to, well, f-ing receive timely updates, I'd stick with it for a while. 4 GB / 64 GB (and the option to add a MicroSD card), Snapdragon... 625, IIRC. And a decent IPS display. It's just fine.

I'd love to have a better camera, but not at 3x the price.

Yeah, this isn't an "Apple" comment. But it is a "US$800 - $1200" comment. And an "it's not really your device" comment. Not when we are at the "mercy" of vendors to provide necessary updates -- or, more often, not to.

On that front, Apple is clearly winning. But a grand is a lot to pay for it.

P.S. My G5+ has a headphone jack. Useful that now Bluetooth is borked until it receives the update/fix -- IF it ever receives it.

Yeah, I'm a broken record... But it's a song these vendors ripely deserve.

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Post by ASalazarMX »

jpalomaki wrote: post #192
jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

There's no room for revolution in smartphone space anymore. The market is too competitive and everybody is tracking it too closely. Revolution can take place in overlooked product categories (think tablets when iPad was introduced - I'd claim that was true revolution since it took significant time for the competitors to really catch up with Apple). On one hand this is pretty sad. There's no wow factor, no truly excit…

I don't think so. The iPhone was revolutionary because suddenly you had a lot of sensors and the power to use them in creative ways. There are still sensors that could be added to devices of this price range that, coupled with new apps, would make them cool again: infrared vision, range finder, molecular scanner, etc.

Imagine pointing your camera to find an A/C leak inside the wall, or scanning fruit for their ripeness, or measuring furniture at the store to see if it fits in your house/door. Hell, it could even alert you if you have bad breath.

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Post by astrodust »

themihai wrote: post #224
astrodust wrote: post #206

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The camera "seems" better in your subjective opinion, or is better as measured by professionals? In the tests I've seen the iPhone comes out on top in almost all situations vs. the Pixel, as a representative example here of a very good Android camera, with the notable exception of extreme low light conditions.

Well, I don't take photos very often but recently at a campfire I took few shoots(with my Iphone 6s) and for some reasons my photos were rubbish while Samsung (note 7)'s were awesome. There was no question that my beloved iPhone's camera was inferior and I think Samsung's display was better too(i.e. OLED). Now I'm convinced Apple is selling inferior hardware at inflated prices. It's OK though but I don't upgrade that…

Sounds like the very low-light problem I was talking about. That's a very specific situation, and you must admit 99.9% of the time most people aren't next to campfires so you're testing with an edge-case here.

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Post by randyrand »

mgleason_3 wrote: post #174

Can't help wondering if FaceID's more of a PITA than a help. Do I always have to stop and stare at my phone? What if I'm walking?

It'll be awesome for people with sweaty hands or in warm or cold climates.

Gotta take the bad with the good. Im optimistic.

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Post by chokolad »

prewett wrote: post #221
untog wrote: post #214

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> I think FaceID would be great for unlocking the a MacBook laptop. This is in absolutely no way revolutionary. Not least because some Windows laptops have been able to do it for some time (HP? I forget who did it, but it was awful)

I'm not sure that "been able to do it for some time, but it is awful" counts as being able to do it. Imagine if your MacBook recognized faces correctly 100% of the time, and would automatically login to your account, your wife's account, or your kid's limited accounts depending on who it was that opened the lid. I don't know if that's revolutionary, but it sure would be easy to use.

> I don't know if that's revolutionary, but it sure would be easy to use.

You can do this already for a few years now. Surface Pro 4, Surface book, Surface Laptop all have it. Works flawlessly.

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