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Re: The tech sector might be evil

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Post by BatFastard » Sun, Sep 24, 2017, 2:55 PM UTC

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #223

BatFastard wrote: post #164

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Calling yourself a conservative is meaningless. The US has shifted away from being a republic to being more of an oligarchy over the last 30 years. So if you are a supporter of oligarchs stand up and be counted. If you are a fiscal conservative you should be pissed that the republicans put the country farther in debt than the democrats do. If you are a social conservative, what the fuck is wrong with you? If you want…

While you may have valid points, your tone is aggressive, emotional, and unproductive. > people who's ideas feel repressive or too far out there either learn to monitor their own extreme ideas or they are shunned. That's how a civil society works. This can be taken too far, however. Complete suppression of nonpopular views can maintain an unproductive status quo, and may lead to authoritarianism.

But indeed is that not what you just did with me? Tried to moderate it so that it feels less aggressive and more comfortable.

Re: The tech sector might be evil

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Post by TheAdamAndChe » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 1:30 AM UTC

BatFastard wrote: post #231

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you may have valid points, your tone is aggressive, emotional, and unproductive. > people who's ideas feel repressive or too far out there either learn to monitor their own extreme ideas or they are shunned. That's how a civil society works. This can be taken too far, however. Complete suppression of nonpopular views can maintain an unproductive status quo, and may lead to authoritarianism.

But indeed is that not what you just did with me? Tried to moderate it so that it feels less aggressive and more comfortable.

I didn't suppress your main idea, I just critiqued the way in which you conveyed it. Highly emotional posts on this site aren't good because of the voting system; comments become voted on not because of their merit or contribution to the conversation, but because the reader agrees or disagrees with them, which is fine for sites like Reddit, but we try to maintain a more thoughtful culture on this site. If we want to advance the conversation, the best way to do that is to focus on the logic that determined your opinion instead of the emotion.

Re: The tech sector might be evil

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Post by nf05papsjfVbc » Tue, Sep 26, 2017, 11:16 AM UTC

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC wrote: post #201

nf05papsjfVbc wrote: post #197

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As for why I think we can't come to an agreement, it's not because we are already in disagreement but because I believe (from this tiny conversation) that our views on things are so far apart that it's hard to bridge that gap in this medium and in a short period of time. As for the last part, I'd like you to consider why people react differently to those wordings. I've also observed that the wording doesn't matter if…

> As for why I think we can't come to an agreement, it's not because we are already in disagreement but because I believe (from this tiny conversation) that our views on things are so far apart that it's hard to bridge that gap in this medium and in a short period of time. In which case I still don't see the point of bringing it up?! I mean, either you think it is worthwhile to discuss something, then you do, or you…

I agree. This conversation is a waste of bandwidth. I did say that it is going to be one. I tip my hat to you and leave this thread.