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With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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A lot of people just get the best iphone every 24 months (e.g. rich people, or people who have a generous smartphone policy at work). Having a model that gets another couple of hundred bucks from those people is pretty clever I think. This is basically the S-class phone (To make a car analogy, because that's what we do). The S-class Mercedes costs twice as much as the "Normal" E-class, and each time they launch a new…

I also know a guy who made his living for many years repairing and reselling iPhones, who simply buys the top of the line as soon as it comes out and resells the old one to pay for it, at as close to full price as he can get away with. Since he always gets the most specc'd out phone available, treats it very carefully, always inside an otterbox, and is a pretty decent salesman, he usually gets his price. He also clai…

If you break/lose your phone it's your problem, dude. My Androids are lasting ~4 years each.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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I also know a guy who made his living for many years repairing and reselling iPhones, who simply buys the top of the line as soon as it comes out and resells the old one to pay for it, at as close to full price as he can get away with. Since he always gets the most specc'd out phone available, treats it very carefully, always inside an otterbox, and is a pretty decent salesman, he usually gets his price. He also clai…

You could save even more money by getting a cheaper Android phone and treating it just as carefully. The problem you described has nothing to do with the brand.

The resale value of a 2 year old Android phone is much lower that a 2 year old iPhone, even it spent those two years sealed in its original box.

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> It's a tad slow, but weren't talking about literally a few seconds of waiting, nothing truly inconvenient. A few seconds of waiting is not "truly inconvenient"? I suppose you're either a zen master, or not doing much with the phone (possibly because it's "a tad slow"). For me, the phone is something I use constantly during the day, in lots of brief bursts. Few seconds of lag may be the difference between me staying…

That can be a choice. If you know every interaction with your phone is going to be an exercise in patience, you'll be less likely to whip it out for every random thought or notification you get.

You remind me of a friend who, as an excuse for having bought a mobile with shit battery, used to say: "well this way I don't look at it that much!!!". Bollocks.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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> Also, iPhones are extremely economical. My iPhone 6, which cost $749 at the time, is coming up to 3 years old. Uh, what? I'm on my second ~$70 Android smart phone in eight years. It's a tad slow, but we're talking about literally a few seconds of waiting, nothing truly inconvenient. I have honestly never been impressed by anything a $600+ iPhone can do beyond what my phone can. The only drawback is that it isn't co…

> It's a tad slow, but weren't talking about literally a few seconds of waiting, nothing truly inconvenient. A few seconds of waiting is not "truly inconvenient"? I suppose you're either a zen master, or not doing much with the phone (possibly because it's "a tad slow"). For me, the phone is something I use constantly during the day, in lots of brief bursts. Few seconds of lag may be the difference between me staying…

"A few seconds of waiting is not "truly inconvenient"? I suppose you're either a zen master, or not doing much with the phone (possibly because it's "a tad slow")."

No, he just isn't possessed by the ridiculous "must go faster, must go faster" mindset that plagues most people today.

A website takes more than a second to load? ARGH it must be down, now my day is ruined!

Just relax, if a small delay is enough to make you "leave the flow", maybe you need to reevaluate your priorities. If your "flow" is interrupted that easily, maybe it wasn't particularly important, anyway.

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as a user of both windows and mac os x, what do you truly like about mac os x that you prefer it so heavily over windows?

I've recently started using Windows again on a gaming computer. Here are the problems I found, that felt "ugh, Windows": - I'm now used to the "inverse mouse scrolling". To enable this for my mouse (logitech something?) I needed to edit the registry. Every time I plug it into a new USB port it's now a new device with a new registry entry to hack. - I installed the various device drivers that came with my hardware. Th…

I'd say you're Windowsing wrong if you changed system file permissions to stop a driver from installing.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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You could save even more money by getting a cheaper Android phone and treating it just as carefully. The problem you described has nothing to do with the brand.

The resale value of a 2 year old Android phone is much lower that a 2 year old iPhone, even it spent those two years sealed in its original box.

I don't think anyone sane would buy a two year old android, that would probably push you back to 5.1 for most phones.

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$20k wine is probably not going to taste any better than $20 wine, objectively speaking. It's just a luxury good for conspicuous spending.

It's not true. Yes, there are snobs, and there is a lot of subjectivity involved, an several studies exposed that. On the other hand, some wines have a certain richness of flavor not present in other wines. Certain aspects of it can be better appreciate by people who developed a certain taste of wines and can differentiate better. They're the target group of the more expensive wines. You pay for a unique experience,…

You pay for a unique experience, for something that you like but you can' really get anywhere else.

What you're saying is certainly true for a $200-500 bottle of wine and possibly even a $2000-5000 bottle of wine, but once you get up to $20k you're buying a rare collectors item as an investment vehicle and not a drink.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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As the Apple increases the price of the iphone, people purchasing it is becoming far less. Since the number of people purchasing the iphone decreases, increasing the prices keeps Apples profits up.

Apple is not an innovative company anymore, but trying to be a Bentley in the phone market.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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You must be from the valley if you think that a 1000 phone is economical. That is laughable.

It's a defensible position, I live in the EU so proximity to heaps of expendable income is not as abundant than in the US middle-class. In the UK we had a saying "the poor man pays twice", meaning that if you buy a shitty rake and it breaks you have to go buy a new one. This is kinda the case with phones too, you can buy a $450 phone with 2 years of updates, or a $700 with 5 years. Which one is more economical over t…

Plenty of cheap but great Androids in the $200-300 range, just take a look at the Moto G5 Plus, for example.

Re: With a $1k Price, Apple’s iPhone Crosses a Threshold

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post #218

A lot of people just get the best iphone every 24 months (e.g. rich people, or people who have a generous smartphone policy at work). Having a model that gets another couple of hundred bucks from those people is pretty clever I think. This is basically the S-class phone (To make a car analogy, because that's what we do). The S-class Mercedes costs twice as much as the "Normal" E-class, and each time they launch a new…

I also know a guy who made his living for many years repairing and reselling iPhones, who simply buys the top of the line as soon as it comes out and resells the old one to pay for it, at as close to full price as he can get away with. Since he always gets the most specc'd out phone available, treats it very carefully, always inside an otterbox, and is a pretty decent salesman, he usually gets his price. He also clai…

I've had nexuses for the last 5 years and have been very happy and certainly not spent the sums you're alluding to.

Unfortunately the nexus is now no more, it's the Pixel which just seems like a rip-off, if I'm going to spend that kind of money I'll go back to iPhones.

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