Essential Phone, available now

Post by MBCook » Thu, Aug 17, 2017, 6:46 PM UTC

ksk wrote: post #53

agnsaft wrote: post #11

At this point, the only thing I care about is whether or not they plan on releasing quality software updates in a timely manner for a reasonable amount of time...

I can see (though don't entirely agree) why companies feel some pain, when the customer paid for the phone, but the public's expectation is free updates for "life" (however you define that). I wonder if having a subscription where they reduce the cost of the phone for the general population, and let others sign up for a paid subscription model for updates, backed up by some kind of SLA type agreement would work. I de…

Post by natch » Thu, Aug 17, 2017, 6:47 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #175

Dirlewanger wrote: post #50

No 3.5mm jack, no thanks.

Yep. Phone HAS to have a headphone jack.

Post by kuschku » Thu, Aug 17, 2017, 6:47 PM UTC

givinguflac wrote: post #223

git-pull wrote: post #85

I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

I'm not trying to be snarky, I swear, but iOS checks all your boxes except "be android" along with dual sim and removable battery. And iOS hardware is still top of the pack when it comes to raw power in the majority of real use cases.

Post by jdietrich » Thu, Aug 17, 2017, 6:49 PM UTC

feld wrote: post #157

git-pull wrote: post #85

I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

> - And physical keyboards. Something for SSH'ing with. There is no market for this product. Nobody wants it except a tiny fraction of the market who work in IT.

Post by xraystyle » Thu, Aug 17, 2017, 6:49 PM UTC

filmgirlcw wrote: post #160

mc32 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When mac books needed some pep in marketing, as sales floundered, Jobs also diverged into Titanium in lieu of faster uPs. After that wore off he went to the unwieldy 17" Mac Books. Often times Titanium is just a marketing ploy. Like titanium cards. Titanium bracelets. Etc.

And Apple moved to using aluminum from titanium in its PowerBooks (the design would later be the basis of the original MacBook Pro), in part, because the softness of of the metal, led to warps and bends in those first-gen TiBook models. I don't know how Essential is using titanium, but history certainly has examples of gadgets that suffered from using that metal over others.