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uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by govg »

jhasse wrote: post #224
Vinnl wrote: post #216

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This is supposedly a lot better with Firefox 55, released this week :)

Only for restoring lots of tabs.

And by god is it fast now. I have in excess of 200 tabs open in various groups (RIP Tab groups), and didn't remember that my Firefox had updated. I open Firefox, see it startup instantly and my first reaction was that Firefox somehow forgot all the tabs that I had loaded and had just started a new window. Imagine my surprise when everything was just as I wanted!

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by ronjouch »

bovine3dom wrote: post #226
exDM69 wrote: post #220

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> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open I'm not and I don't store/restore tabs on close, so that's not the case here. It's just Firefox + Vimperator + uBlock origin with about:blank as home page. I'm on Linux/X11 if that matters.

This is probably a good place to plug the fact that Vimperator is going to die with FF57 [1]. If anyone wants to help with making an alternative, look through that thread. I'm particularly invested in Tridactyl [2] but other people are working on others. [1] https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/705 [2] https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl

Not strictly feature-equivalent, but there's already a working (I use it everyday) port of Vimium for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by donkeyd »

philipkglass wrote: post #150
greggman wrote: post #112

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That doesn't seem related to the topic unless I'm missing it. Also it has nothing to do with browsers or Chrome vs Firefox

http://go.instartlogic.com/AppShield-Ad-Integrity-Data-Sheet... "Web publishers make simple DNS changes to flow the network domains that carry their HTML through the Instart Logic system. This allows our system to inject a small piece of JavaScript that can detect the presence of ad blockers. When an ad blocker is detected, the JavaScript-based virtualization layer Nanovisor, together with our intelligent cloud-based…

That's actually some pretty cool technology! I don't like what it's being used for, but I like that it exists.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by dobin »

RX14 wrote: post #219

I heard somewhere that Firefox's security showing was pretty dismal before they introduces e10s with seccomp-bpf sandboxing. The anecdote I heard was that in "hacking competitions" a Chrome vulnerability was worth a serious hunk of cash, Firefox was worth almost nothing because it was too easy. After sandboxing, Firefox RCEs are worth money again. Does anyone know whether this claim is accurate or misleading? I know…

The claim is correct. The security of IE9+, Edge and Chrome is far superior than Firefox. As Geohot said, writing an exploit for Firefox is similar to a harder CTF challenge (done in an day or two). While IE or Chrome Exploits cost a lot. I can back it up with references, but https://www.zerodium.com/program.html shows a pretty clear picture (Scroll down to Payout Ranges). It will take FF like 3-5 years until they have a sandbox as good as the other Browsers, sadly.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by gsnedders »

mtgx wrote: post #153
homero wrote: post #17

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What do you think of Opera becoming Chrome?

I think I preferred it, but what killed Opera for me was being bought by a Chinese company + seeing what that company did to Opera Max (which I thought was a "killer app" before the acquisition).

> seeing what that company did to Opera Max (which I thought was a "killer app" before the acquisition)

What did they do?

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by gsnedders »

Piskvorrr wrote: post #179
homero wrote: post #17

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What do you think of Opera becoming Chrome?

It never did - Opera was killed just after Kestrel, and a new Chrome clone was slapped with the logo and name. There is no Opera, and hasn't been for some time.

Opera was killed just after 9.6? I thought it survived till Wahoo.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by exDM69 »

simias wrote: post #223
exDM69 wrote: post #220

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> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open I'm not and I don't store/restore tabs on close, so that's not the case here. It's just Firefox + Vimperator + uBlock origin with about:blank as home page. I'm on Linux/X11 if that matters.

That's odd, from SSD a cold firefox start takes a few seconds on my debian testing (using firefox 54 from apt). Maybe you're using a slow HDD?

Nope. It's a lightning fast m.2 SSD. And warm caches don't help either.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by littlestymaar »

kibwen wrote: post #47
overcast wrote: post #19

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How has the nightly been for you in terms of stability? Been thinking of switching to it from beta. The memory issues on MacOS are killing me, and I believe there are fixes in nightly now.

IME, desktop nightly hasn't ever outright crashed (less lucky with mobile nightly). Sometimes I notice minor rendering glitches on various sites, but I also have Servo's CSS engine enabled which might be doing it (it's not yet the default).

Well, it used to crash a lot at some point : when e10s was first activated by default in Nightly (in 2013 IIRC) it crashed several times a day. I stopped using nightly for a year afterwards.

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by baby »

haddr wrote: post #221
baby wrote: post #193

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Tree Style Tab is the biggest difference for me, if you haven't used it before you are probably slow to browse the web :)

I like a lot the "tabs outliner" extension for Chrome. It's especially useful when you work with many tabs open at the same time, and want to preserve sessions, etc. Unfortunately there is now alternative to that in Firefox. Session Manager comes close, but is painful to use. So I'm still looking forward to such extension for Firefox, because honestly I prefer FF to Chrome for most of the things.

Honestly nothing beats Tree Style Tab, have you tried it?

Re: uBlock Origin Maintainer on Chrome vs. Firefox WebExtensions

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Post by baby »

vanderZwan wrote: post #218
exDM69 wrote: post #212

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To me, the best feature of Firefox compared to Chromium (both out of the box, no extensions. not sure if there are extensions that could help) is the address bar. Firefox does a fuzzy search into your browsing history and if you visit the same sites often, the suggestions are quite good. Contrast this with Chrome, where the idea behind address bar user experience seems to be maximizing the number of Google searches d…

> The worst part of Firefox is the terribly long startup time. It can take up to 10 seconds after a reboot and takes quite a long time even with warm caches. If you're the type with a lot of tabs open, that should improve a lot in the next few releases. https://metafluff.com/2017/07/21/i-am-a-tab-hoarder/index.ht...

> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open

Then pray for Tree Style Tabs to be implemented by default in Firefox.

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