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Re: Slack Said to Draw Interest from Amazon

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Chime is for both, it's just not very good at text.

This is not true. We use Chime for text every day. It doesn't have all the 3rd party integrations that Slack does, but it give you the same basic functionality. Disclaimer: Work for AWS.

I use Chime in CDO ;)

Chime is definitely better than Lync, but I stand by my statement that it's not very good at text. It's missing basic UI features like threading or merged comments, profile pictures/icons, not to mention more advanced integrations.

I love using it for meetings... but text functionality is still lagging behind Slack, or even Mattermost (also used within Amzn)

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What's a good way to get mobile notifications about an IRC message?

Install an IRC client on your phone? If this is just going to be a game of "let's list every feature Slack has bolted on to their chatroom" then I don't care to play.

That was a serious question, I'm not sure there's need for the snark.

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I don't see how you get that. Slack does tons of things IRC doesn't. IRC is not a valid replacement for the entirety of slack. To choose IRC means deciding that you don't need or want the rest of slack's features.

Exactly, how will our company be productive without emoji and embedded reaction gifs?

What about uploading files, video and voice chat, scrollable and searchable chat history, code snippet support? These are the reasons people use slack. To say IRC is a substitute means your company doesn't need to solve these problems (which is fine, they may not have them) or it means you're using a bunch of products together to solve them.

I don't get the stance that this is "hype" or a "bandwagon" at all.

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Discord is the better app at this point. Even for business use. But Slack from an acquisition POV must be different. They have revenue, traction, and that all important paying subscriber base. It's like everyone has always said. Slack is just a chat app. It's not about the app, but rather, what they achieved with it. I love discord so much part of me wants Amazon to buy Slack just so it would kill it (or MS or Verizo…

> Discord is the better app at this point. Even for business use. Doesn't slack still win in external 3rd party (eg. integrations) support? That, and the gaming specific branding, are the only reasons I can think of why businesses might not even consider Discord.

Actually yes and no.

Discord has Webhooks (which is all I need). Slack requires a bunch of admin hoops and adoption by 3rd parties. With webhooks, as long as a service has an API, people like me can plug them right in.

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Discord is the better app at this point. Even for business use. But Slack from an acquisition POV must be different. They have revenue, traction, and that all important paying subscriber base. It's like everyone has always said. Slack is just a chat app. It's not about the app, but rather, what they achieved with it. I love discord so much part of me wants Amazon to buy Slack just so it would kill it (or MS or Verizo…

Having not really used Discord, what about it is better to you?

Faster. Discord is lighter and faster.

Simpler. I don't need comments and threads and snippets and posts at the expense of simple communications. These features are also inconsistent and incompatible across devices.

Search/Cost. Search doesn't search contents of snippets which was a gotcha. And with a 10000 message limit, anyone using it for free reaches a point where search breaks. I was deleting messages for a while because at the end of the day all the 50/mo would have gotten us is unbroken search. It's like 99% of the product is free and they ask to pay 50/mo for the last 1%.

Web Hooks. Integrating anything is as simple as a single line cUrl command. So for business use, if you already have a server doing a bunch of stuff with various APIs, adding notifications to discord is a one liner.

Also Discord has a more intuitive server list on the side bar. With slack you have to register with every team and "switch". In Discord it's just another tab.

A business on Slack is one that 1) can't see a superior chat program when they see one, 2) are willing to pay for an inferior product, and 3) can't look past the "gamer" origins of a platform.

But to Slack's credit, they built a business out of just chat, which is miraculous. And though I've arrived at Discord, they deserve all the credit and respect in the world for achieving what they have achieved through a mere chat subscription service. And I'm sure their philosophy and business direction is what got them to where they are, so standing up and challenging exactly that would admittedly be naive on my part. However I still do not believe any of the points that I have made are incorrect either, which just tells you more about this industry (chat industry?).

They just need a "Discord for Business". They would kill.

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