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Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by pippy »

ch4ck wrote: post #47
tannhaeuser wrote: post #26

Thumbs up for Apple distinguishing themselves by their pro-privacy stance, as opposed to MS, who don't have anything to win by Win10's excessive "telemetry" IMHO.

Internet Explorer has tracking protection since IE9.

Most sites don't obey the do not track header. Edge on the other hand is much more nefarious, by default it sends all data sent by POST requests to Microsoft. I was surprised to find Bing sending data from people who use Edge on my site to try and improve their search results. There are so many security and privacy issues with this it's not funny at all.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by cptskippy »

rubatuga wrote: post #210
addicted wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure I was asked to opt in to Cortana during install. During the setup phase so it may be true of OEMs as well.

What are you talking about, you can't turn it off

Sure you can, during setup or any time afterward since day one. It's even easier in the Creator's update.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by rakshithbekal »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #26

Thumbs up for Apple distinguishing themselves by their pro-privacy stance, as opposed to MS, who don't have anything to win by Win10's excessive "telemetry" IMHO.

are you stupid? edge has had tracker blocker for over two years now. Funny since safaris been out for ages.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by YPCrumble »

frio80 wrote: post #195

Looks like this will stop (after 24 hours) some companies from doing an initial redirection to set cookies for tracking purposes... Example: 1. Search Google for hockey sticks 2. Click on search result hockeystick.com 3. hockeystick.com issues a 302 to adcompany.com which then issues a 302 back to hockeystick.com Why the 302? Because in Safari, you could only access cookies in a 3rd party context if you've seen a dom…

Woah - is this what companies that "rent" other companies' pixels like perfect audience are doing to get the pixel data?

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by [deleted] »

rakshithbekal wrote: post #233
tannhaeuser wrote: post #26

Thumbs up for Apple distinguishing themselves by their pro-privacy stance, as opposed to MS, who don't have anything to win by Win10's excessive "telemetry" IMHO.

are you stupid? edge has had tracker blocker for over two years now. Funny since safaris been out for ages.

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Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by sctb »

rakshithbekal wrote: post #233
tannhaeuser wrote: post #26

Thumbs up for Apple distinguishing themselves by their pro-privacy stance, as opposed to MS, who don't have anything to win by Win10's excessive "telemetry" IMHO.

are you stupid? edge has had tracker blocker for over two years now. Funny since safaris been out for ages.

Personal attacks like this are not OK on Hacker News.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

om2 wrote: post #175
tptacek wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My contention was that Safari is less safe than Chrome, not that Safari's sandbox was in particular worse than Chrome's. Nevertheless, on balance, Safari's sandbox is significantly worse than Chrome's. I think --- but you'd know better than I would --- that this is because browser security is a platform problem for Apple, and an application problem at Google. Apple's platform-level mitigations are very powerful on iO…

You actually did make a claim that Safari's sandbox was in particular worse than Chrome's, in the post I directly replied to. That is what got my dander up. Elsewhere you implied that the Safari sandbox comparable to the Java sandbox. I hope you will now agree that the Safari sandbox is closer to Chrome's than to Java's. I don't know enough about the full spectrum of security technologies in all the browsers to have…

I know your replies here are probably somewhat aggravating and definitely time-consuming, but I appreciate your level head and the detail and information you provide. I don't have a complex understanding of any of these technical details and you explain things in a clear and concise way.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by 9935c101ab17a66 »

tptacek wrote: post #46
cylo wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am curious to know why you say this considering Safari is just as sandboxed as Chrome?

No, it isn't.

You make this claim over and over again and then double down on it when pressed (you literally call Chrome and macOS Safari "incomparable"), but you fail to provide any reason or evidence to support your claim and instead always insist on counter-evidence. When pressed (further down in this comment thread), the only thing you share is this vague idea that Apple isn't incentivized to make Safari secure on macOS. You also compare Safari/Chrome sandboxes several times after declaring them incomparable.

You then, unprompted, create a comparison of all the major browsers again with no citations or supportive reasoning.

It's all very strange.

Re: Apple adds a tracker blocker to desktop Safari

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Post by kalleboo »

quotemstr wrote: post #229

Do you want crappy ads? Then go ahead, make tracking more difficult. Tracking helps you see ads for things you actually want to see. It's not some kind of grand conspiracy.

I have yet to see the supposedly relevant ads that all this targeting is supposed to get me. The closest to targeted I've gotten is seeing stuff I already just bought on Amazon.
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