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Re: Imzy is shutting down

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Turns out the vast majority of people don't want to spend their lives in a permanent "safe space"[0]. That was a fast flameout [0] https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/25/a-chat-with-imzy-co-founde...

That's a pretty funny comment to make on Hacker News, which is regularly accused of being a hivemind and downvoting comments / censoring stories that challenge its ideologies.

The comment being ironic-in-context doesn't make it any the less true.

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I like Imzy and am sad they are shutting down. Reddit needs alternatives to it that works better. I am working with someone to open source their Kr5ddit code on Github by rewriting it. Look at http://k666.kr5ddit.com which is a start with no money invested yet. Look at http://kr5ddit.com to see how it uses bitcoins to buy Kr5ddits used to moderate stories and comments. It is not complete yet, but it is a good idea an…

Why does Reddit need alternatives?

What would "works better" entail?

Re: Imzy is shutting down

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I wish the founders well, but I feel like people nowadays give up too early. And this is one of the most extreme examples of that. Most community sites take a while to grow and you really never know what will happen. Even Reddit was sort of a failure vs. Digg and they sold it off to conde nast. It was only later AFTER the sale when Digg messed up on their own and Reddit enjoyed success as a side effect. You really sh…

I was there from early in the beta. The thing that annoyed me, when I suggested that people should take a look at it was the decision that you had to make an account to see content. Most people visited the homepage and then said 'no'.

This is one of the main reasons i detest pinterest. Lately they have changed, so that you can see small amount of the content, before annoying you with the login screen.

Re: Imzy is shutting down

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It's people who don't know what they're doing playing with Monopoly money. I mean really; $11M+ for that site, which existed all of 7 months?! The start up scene boggles my mind.

They didn't spend all of the $11m. Only a tiny fraction of it. And they worked on the site for two years.

Then why did they raise so much? How do you know how much the spent? And two years to build that site?

I'm not convinced any of this was well thought out.

Re: Imzy is shutting down

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Their problem isn't paying for proprietary software, their problem is that they are unable to make any money.

Not proprietary software, but really overpriced cloud platforms. There are so many viable businesses that burn themselves to the ground because they think they need to run everything on EC2/Azure and pay 10x what they need to.

Cloud hosting allows a startup to scale quickly. This is very important to seize opportunities as they arise without having to wait for physical servers to be shipped into the data center. OTOH, last time I looked at their source code, it didn't seem like they were making a serious effort towards efficient data access patterns. This can get very expensive on a cloud DB service.

Anyways, if monthly costs of a little bit more than $6000 are enough to sink the ship, then the whole thing isn't financially viable. Sooner or later you have to pay people to maintain the whole thing, and that is going to be a lot more expensive.

Re: Imzy is shutting down

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You really don't want to cater to the easily offendable, imo. I remember writing an ebook on affiliate marketing when it was a new thing (free for email subscribers), which had the word Bullshit stamped on an image. Two people said maybe I should tone down the language heh. Fuck right off, buddy :D

> You really don't want to cater to the easily offendable, imo. This attitude rings with the dismissive tone of the unapologetically privileged who — rebelling against the slightest whiff of shame — are quick to marginalize any and every voice with whom empathizing would require their stingily hoarded emotional labor and energy. Ironically, communities populated by such misers enthusiastically take umbrage with the p…

Please don't post ideological rants to HN. It degrades discussion regardless of how correct your underlying point is.

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It was like reddit with a shinier but harder to use UI, and less racists.

Fewer racists. Or did you actually mean people who on average were less racist?

I'm amazed how large this (still small) subset of people is that suddenly can't understand the meaning of the word "less" when used for countable nouns. Strangely I've never encountered one in person, only on reddit and hackernews, and in fiction.

It seems such a strange place to suddenly misunderstand what seems to be a relatively straightforward and simple use of the word.

It means "a smaller quanitity of", just the same as it does when used for uncountable nouns, and as far as I can think of, it was very clear in that context with no conflict or ambiguity.

Re: Imzy is shutting down

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Turns out the vast majority of people don't want to spend their lives in a permanent "safe space"[0]. That was a fast flameout [0] https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/25/a-chat-with-imzy-co-founde...

I don't see what's massively objectionable about wanting to build a community based on tolerance, kindness and mutual respect.

It's not objectionable, it's just impossible. Well, not completely impossible, you can do that if all you allow is pictures of food, kittens and flowers and people responding with the thumbs up emoji (actually I'm not so sure about food anymore).

But at soon as you allow discussion of something even slightly substantive people will start to perceive some opinions as attacks on their ego.

No matter how rational and dispassionate an argument objectively is, someone will perceive it as violence.

What happens is that "tolerance, kindness and mutual respect" becomes "protection of the moderator's ego" and adherence to an ever expanding set of intellectual dogmas.

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