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Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by bsder » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:37 PM UTC

mtw wrote: post #119

chrisabrams wrote: post #88

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Steve and the unified vision is gone. While on winter holidays my fiance pointed out to me: - She just got a new Macbook Pro from her new job, which has only USB C ports - She just got a new iPhone 7 from her new job, which is only a Lightning port She cannot connect her phone to her computer to charge without a dongle. EDIT: a Lightning to USB C cable does exist now. That is still equivalent to a dongle in my opinio…

Unified vision was nice. What interested me first in the Apple ecosystem was its use by high-end pros. Photographers, creatives, filmmakers. Then they announced MacOS X, built upon NeXT/BSD, and the mac pro products. Now Microsoft has dedicated products for high-end creatives (Surface studio won't sell but still shows interest in pros), Linux Bash shell in windows 10. Meanwhile Apple wants pros to use a 9" tablet ins…

> Now Microsoft has dedicated products for high-end creatives (Surface studio won't sell but still shows interest in pros)

Every single professional who uses the Surface Studio practically has an orgasm.

If Microsoft keeps support up for it long enough that the CAD program developers are willing to take the plunge on the new features and integrate them into their programs, it will completely displace Apple with the high-end professionals.

The question is whether Microsoft will keep pumping money into the line long enough to get the application developers on board. They've been burned several times.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by Touche » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:37 PM UTC

andrewstuart2 wrote: post #131

rblatz wrote: post #68

People are all up in arms about headphone jacks, USB-C, and dongles. When the real issue is Apple completely missing huge new markets. Apple had Siri out and was in the lead with voice control, then they wasted it. I never use Siri, she is nearly worthless, but I do use Alexa multiple times a day. Amazon is Leading the voice assistant market, and Google is right on their heels. Home automation was supposed to get bet…

> Apple had Siri out and was in the lead with voice control, then they wasted it. I think this statement can be generalized to almost every single product Apple sells or has sold. They've seriously excelled at innovation in the past (tons of great historic computers, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad, Siri, etc.) but then it's like the whole company eventually gets bored with Product X and moves on because "Innovation i…

I honestly want to know what was innovative about Siri. Android already have voice commands at that time, they just didn't have a cutesy name for it. I guess Siri was "innovative" in that it had a clever marketing campaign behind it, that Google, Microsoft, and Amazon later copied.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by kevinherron » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:38 PM UTC

hyperion2010 wrote: post #213

I have to say, I stopped by a university computer store today and they had the three new mac book pros on display. When I went to test out the keyboard I was horrified. How does anyone think that having sub millimetre key-action is acceptable? The things barely move! Same with the touchpads. Maybe I'm biased coming from thinkpad keyboads, but even compared to the previous generation of mac keyboards (which I have enc…

I actually really like the new keyboard. Not sure what to tell you. I was a little hesitant, but I think it feels better to type on than the old ones now. It's not like I'm used to shitty keyboards either - when I'm not on a laptop all my keyboards are mechanical.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by karyon » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:38 PM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #195

karyon wrote: post #176

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but what about maybe another yacht? some island? that limited edition lamborghini? oh you could collect art. use your bonus to get more of that. i think this "if i had this specific amount of money, then i'd have everything i could possibly desire" is unlikely to be true, you'll find more things to spend your money on. another thought: you could donate all of it. the perfect money sink. it actually helps, and more of…

Obviously I can't answer for anyone but myself, and I personally wouldn't be motivated to get a second yacht given how much work keeping one up is (not that I have one). But how about you? Do you feel better about yourself if you have more art? or more cars? a bigger house? a staff? And if so, why does that make you feel better about yourself?

Personally I have no interest in such luxuries and hope I never will have. My goal is to keep my expenses to the (relatively low) level it is now, and save excess money for kids (which i don't have yet) or donate it. But I'm not there yet, I'll leave university in a few months, and what do I know what my future self will do.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by mejari » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:39 PM UTC

jeffehobbs wrote: post #9

Apple should have removed the indicator that showed Tim Cook what his sales goals were.

That takes courage.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by nashashmi » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:40 PM UTC

dagw wrote: post #180

qyv wrote: post #122

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If 2017 turns out to be the year the VR starts to hit the main stream, which it could be, it will be interesting to see what Apple's response will be.

VR in 2017 will be 90+% about gaming, and Apple has never really cared about gaming. I doubt they'll start caring now all of a sudden.

VR is all about immersive experiences. Apple always cares about experiences.

And my thoughts are that Apple cannot bring the same Stevie vision of simplicity and use to VR, which is why they will never care about it.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by takeda » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:41 PM UTC

johndubchak wrote: post #219

artimaeis wrote: post #108

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Here's my personal conjecture based on owning most products in the Apple lineup and trying to predict the future a bit. So far as I can tell the idea is Lightning ports for devices which require charging, and USB ports for devices which require data transfer. All cables designed to provide power utilize a USB A connector - this is the majority of Lightning cables. In their current lineup this can be used to charge an…

I believe Lightning was added to the iPhone (and the headphone jack removed) only for the purpose of waterproofing the device. But that's just off the top of my head.

I doubt it, S7 has both, headphone jack and an micro USB port, and it is still waterproof.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by bsder » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:41 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #215

chrisabrams wrote: post #88

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Steve and the unified vision is gone. While on winter holidays my fiance pointed out to me: - She just got a new Macbook Pro from her new job, which has only USB C ports - She just got a new iPhone 7 from her new job, which is only a Lightning port She cannot connect her phone to her computer to charge without a dongle. EDIT: a Lightning to USB C cable does exist now. That is still equivalent to a dongle in my opinio…

> The unified vision at Apple is gone. My theory is that something happened and Apple felt it was forced to release the new MBP 6 months or maybe 1 year before the whole line was ready.

Microsoft Surface happened and was being more Apple than Apple.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by seanp2k2 » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:42 PM UTC

qyv wrote: post #211

user5994461 wrote: post #153

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What's hitting the market? Didn't hear anything.

Windows 10 Creators Update along with a slew of headsets from major PC vendors (HP, Dell, Lenovo, etc.) starting at $300.

The problem I see is that VR would be great with dual 2K screens and 120+hz , but we don't have the GPUS to push that many pixels today (in any remotely affordable way...maybe quad TitanX would work).

Cheaper, lower-quality VR headsets will leave a bad impression on consumers. I don't think that's the direction we should be going. I'd rather see HTC and Oculus release higher-res, faster refresh rate HMDs, but I doubt they'd do that with no single GPU able to run those today.

Re: Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife » Fri, Jan 06, 2017, 8:43 PM UTC

kevinherron wrote: post #233

hyperion2010 wrote: post #213

I have to say, I stopped by a university computer store today and they had the three new mac book pros on display. When I went to test out the keyboard I was horrified. How does anyone think that having sub millimetre key-action is acceptable? The things barely move! Same with the touchpads. Maybe I'm biased coming from thinkpad keyboads, but even compared to the previous generation of mac keyboards (which I have enc…

I actually really like the new keyboard. Not sure what to tell you. I was a little hesitant, but I think it feels better to type on than the old ones now. It's not like I'm used to shitty keyboards either - when I'm not on a laptop all my keyboards are mechanical.

I'm the same, the new keyboard works fine for me.