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2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Right now is a great time to score a 2015 model. Doesn't make sense to buy a new MacBook Pro until a 32 GB option is available imho.

Agreed and just did this!

Feel very comfortable with the decision.

Ultimately the 2016 MBP is a "V1" new product, which I think most of us are trained to allow some maturation before jumping on board.

It should be mature enough in 3-5 years when I'm looking to replace my 2015 MBP!

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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The problems with the new macbook "pro" seem to keep on growing. I am really surprised that Apple did not find the connecting to external display issue in internal testing.

"The problems with the new macbook "pro" seem to keep on growing. I am really surprised that Apple did not find the connecting to external display issue in internal testing."

It is as if they asked ipad users to design the macbook.

I think that's a decent mental model for what we are seeing here. These macbooks make perfect sense if you look at them from the point of view of an ipad/iphone user.

Apparently the "$3000 facebook machine" market is much bigger than the "finally, a unix workstation that doesn't suck" market.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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I have a Lenovo x1c with an oled touch bar. In the x1c it has function keys. It's a terrible solution. No tactile feedback is a deal breaker. Lenovo backtracked, and subsequent generations lost the "touch bar" and use regular keys.

Implementation details matter. This is one area where Apple has often excelled where others have failed.

The touchpad is a good example here. I've got an HP with a large touchpad, and with the buttons implemented in software. It's horrendous to use in a situation where I'm mixing left and right clicks, while expecting the cursor to stay in one place (games, file management in the GUI).

I don't use Macs often, but that's definitely one place where Apple is so far ahead in their implementation that it's not even funny. Using the touchpad for anything more complex than surfing the web is much more comfortable.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Right now is a great time to score a 2015 model. Doesn't make sense to buy a new MacBook Pro until a 32 GB option is available imho.

Agreed.

I currently use a max spec 11" air. I expect it to last 4+ years.

I recently purchased a spare max spec 11" air.

I'm not going to pay attention to any of this noise for 8-10 years.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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A few other problems I came across: 1. Battery life is much lower than specified: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/battery-life-for-13-and-... 2. Some users report graphic card problems: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/pool-do-you-have-graphic... Here is how it looks like: http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/graphic-card-freaks-out-... 3. TouchBar graphics sometimes display on the screen instead of on the Touc…

The 2015 13" Pro has a 74.9-watt-hour battery. The 2016 13" non-Touch Bar Pro has a 54.5-watt-hour battery. The 2016 13" Touch Bar Pro has a 49.2-watt-hour-battery! The components in the 2016 models are more power efficient. But at some point you'll run into physics. Apple may claim the battery life is the same as before when watching a movie (probably entirely HW accelerator offloaded by now), but if you're compilin…

Don't be too sure; total power consumption of the new Skylake CPUs is much lower, as is power use by the display, etc.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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I don't expect the hub to work when the display is powered off or unplugged. I do, however, expect it to work when the monitor is "asleep", i.e., in power-saving mode. My Dell P2715Q display does work properly as a hub when it's asleep.

>> My Dell P2715Q display does work properly as a hub when it's asleep. The P2715Q has all sorts of quirks. I have a pair of them connected to my Windows computer, and when they go to sleep, Windows basically forgets where all the open windows were and disperses them somewhat randomly. Of all the monitors I've used, I've only ever experienced this with the P2715Q. I also notice that the power output of the USB ports…

>I also notice that the power output of the USB ports on the monitors is barely enough to charge any recent mobile device.

That's because it's probably supplying the USB spec of 500ma. That's not a fault, it's how it should work. The usb-looking chargers that come with many recent mobile devices are using a bastardized set of "not really standards" to let them pump more juice through the USB port than is allowed.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#237

Any serious developer worth his salt is not going to put up with the utter shit the new MB(P) are. I know they're catering to "media" types but for any engineer who also happens to be a 10x and well rounded, doing art, music and other fields will feel constrained. Apple has left the golden middle ground a long time ago and is going after the "media" types only. News flash: the margins in those youtubers-sectors are v…

Apple has left the golden middle ground a long time ago and is going after the "media" types only. News flash: the margins in those youtubers-sectors are very low, hence the spending will dry sooner rather then later. I don't think that this is a very good good laptop for media-youtuber types either. Just watch Casey Neistat's review of the new rMBP. He really wants to like it, but it's really clear from what he's sa…

He then appeared in the finale episode with the old rMBP and an SD card in it.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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> You can get C-c to be pretty much identical with a little remap > :imap True but you're still out of luck in other Vi like places. As an alternative I used Karabina in the past to map Caps lock into Esc (when pressed and released) and Ctrl (when pressed with another key). I think you could also make it latch as Caps lock by using Caps-Shift but I'm not 100% on that. Does anyone know if Karabina has been updated to…

True but you're still out of luck in other Vi like places. Agreed. I use set -o vi in bash and of course my little remapping is of no use there. As an alternative I used Karabina in the past to map Caps lock into Esc (when pressed and released) and Ctrl (when pressed with another key). This was something else I had suggested to me, but while probably about 50% of my computer use on a daily basis is on OSX, the other…

It can. I've been using Caps Lock as Escape across Linux, FreeBSD, and OS X for 7 years now. The various gui interfaces to xmodmap even have an option to do the flip for you (at least in GNOME, Cinnamon, and KDE).

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

#239
This is a bad time for Apple to screw up. PC laptops are finally catching up (HP Spectre, Dell XPS, Microsoft Surface, Razer Stealth, etc). Some are not only delivering good performance and build quality, but features that Apple doesn't even have (detachable Surface Book, 360 hinge, external GPUs). And at a much lower price point.

I love OSX, but no OS is worth that much.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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3 sounds like a doozy. Is there any way that the average person can learn to tell these apart once they are out of the packaging, or is it really just a guess and check?

My understanding is that Thunderbolt 3 cables should have the Thunderbolt logo on them.

The cables or ends should almost be colored blue. It might help if there was a color code to all the cables and ports
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